<p>Thanks for the in depth explanation, that makes more sense now. I wasn’t trying to single out Peatrick either, I meant dudes (plural) in general, but I can see now that it kind of reads differently that I intended.</p> <p>Anyways, I appreciate your time a…</p>Eagles215 said:I trust peatrick. Probably just scheme.
He claims domination from his right side,where in my scheme the left side de dominates. He rushes 3 while i rush 4-5 depending on my defensive read. It sounds crazy but having the exact correct placement of players at certain positions makes a big difference. IE. I run barno-karlaftis-poe-ware in one setup...if i rearrange ware to the opposite side and swap the dts positions ill get completely different results. So yeah kinda comes down to scheme and placement of players.
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<p>Yeah I guess in the end I have an extra mil back in the bank now.</p> <p>I do find it interesting how different the results can be. I know 6 games isn’t a large sample size but the difference was so glaring that I really didn’t want to play anymore games …</p>peatrick said:Weird that people can have such vastly different experiences with the same card. So much random, inconsistent nonsense with this bad game. I had this stack; Colossus, Speedster, Unpredictable and Inside Stuff, for a total of 4AP.
Colossus is objectively superior to Unstoppable Force, i don't think that's up for debate. 0AP Inside Stuff is better than 1AP Inside Stuff... kinda see where i'm going with this? My Von Miller has been explosive, he's into the backfield on both run and pass plays, soaking up (and often splitting right through) double teams. His stats are nowhere near as impactful as Barno, but still enough of an upgrade over Poe (at a fraction of the cost) for me to make the switch. Glad George is working out so well for you guys, although i'm not sure 6 games is large enough sample size to feel confident about anything... but if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Take the money and run, you'll never regret having coins.
In any type of Solo Challenges, Von doesn't have a chance to pad his stats, because Barno is there on 3 out of three downs to sack the QB before they can even get a play off. He's so nasty, especially coming off the right edge (left of screen) which seems to be the dominant side for pass rush this year.
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<p>So the dudes claiming Von is better:</p> <p>Is it delusion?</p> <p>Do they just trust the ability descriptions that much?</p> <p>Is he really better in their scheme?</p> <p>It’s seriously hard for me to understand when the winner is so clearly evident.</p>Eagles215 said:I got same results.
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<p>Well my Von Miller is officially for sale. I had some time to run through like 6 more champs games and then did about 10 challenges to finish off some objectives.</p> <p>There was no comparison, first champs game my opponent had no abilities on his o-line…</p>peatrick said:I guess that's not THAT unreasonable, seeing as I have 9AP invested between Von and Jenkins. Keeping Urlacher would be a far cheaper way to get both SUBLBs with Avalanche + Enforcer Supreme combo, but I'm spoiled and want 99 SPD users to choose from. Urlacher is fantastic, but he kind of lumbers around the field and I'm not always as decisive as I need to be with my cuts, I'm starting and stopping and changing directions constantly as I chase people around, especially in Squads play where things get crazy.
There is a Vita Vea coming Monday, I think, so either sell late tonight or plan to hold through midweek. Unless you need the coins, I've made my preference clear. YMMV, but in my head it's as simple as Colossus > UF.
Is it 1M coins better? That, I'm not so sure. But it's objectively superior.
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<p>Thanks for the info, something for me to consider.</p>Eagles215 said:He plays just like karlaftis...just lower speed but cheaper ap. Im running 45/20
Eagles/chiefs and have the extra ap to spare on george.
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<p>I never tried sack but have always wondered how he compared since he would save 1AP.</p> <p>How has he been for you?</p>RushFORE said:I've been using Sack Sieler for the 3AP UF since he came out. Do we still think Karlaftis is better at DT?
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<p>I feel that about Urlacher 100%. I got Urlacher boosted up to 98 SPD 99 ACC and he still ends up being tough to user because he gets hung up trying to change direction. He’s great if left alone and I love causing fumbles with him butI just replaced …</p>peatrick said:I guess that's not THAT unreasonable, seeing as I have 9AP invested between Von and Jenkins. Keeping Urlacher would be a far cheaper way to get both SUBLBs with Avalanche + Enforcer Supreme combo, but I'm spoiled and want 99 SPD users to choose from. Urlacher is fantastic, but he kind of lumbers around the field and I'm not always as decisive as I need to be with my cuts, I'm starting and stopping and changing directions constantly as I chase people around, especially in Squads play where things get crazy.
There is a Vita Vea coming Monday, I think, so either sell late tonight or plan to hold through midweek. Unless you need the coins, I've made my preference clear. YMMV, but in my head it's as simple as Colossus > UF.
Is it 1M coins better? That, I'm not so sure. But it's objectively superior.
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<p>Yeah I’m running the same stack on Barno. I have him at LE and RRE.</p> <p>Hunter has been weird. He doesn’t get a lot of sacks for me but then ends up getting a clutch sack or TFL when I need it most.</p> <p>Maybe I will take your suggestion and see how Von do…</p>peatrick said:Curious what stack you're running on Barno? I have him at RE & RRE, he's far and away my most productive player, using 1AP stack; UF, DoN + ET & Relentless... plus No Outsiders, of course.
Hunter has made a few impressive strip sacks to win me some close games, plus he boosts Von +1 SPD (and all LEs) but he's a weird card. I'd at least try Von for today and see what you think, then list him before bed for profit if you prefer to stick with George.
The additional 0AP Inside Stuff would definitely influence my own decision, but we've got tons of AP on both sides of the ball now. I went bonkers, putting 5AP stack on my SUBLB2 after pulling BND Sean Taylor from 91+ packs, allowing me to bring Jenkins down into the box full time.
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<p>Thanks bro, appreciate your insight!</p>dphins said:🥱
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<p>Currently running Barno and Hunter on the edges with UF and Karlaftis at DT1 with UF. Rushing these 3 guys for most obvious passing downs/formations. I have seen a few opponents shut down my pass rush but more often than not these 3 get tons of pres…</p>peatrick said:Do you have at least one Colossus on your D-line? Most pass rush abilities aren't worth the AP investment this year. Yes, I've used George K. at DT, although I played him at the edge more often, opposite DeMarcus Ware, with Reggie White at DT during Superbowl era.
If you're sending 4 pass rushers, perhaps your existing arrangement works for you, but I'm generating elite pressure sending just three and constantly dropping 8 into coverage. This is only feasible if you have at least one Colossus to soak up the double teams, ensuring edge rushers have a foot race to the QB for a sack / pressure.
My squad is pretty decent. I test most new top end cards that drop, but only certain ones actually make the squad, let alone see playing time. Von is best DT currently in-game, IMO. I've tried to find better.
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<p>It seems the consensus is saying Karl has been better than Von. Have you tried Karl at DT1 with UF to know how they compare?</p> <p>I do agree for some reason the smaller guys seem to wiggle through the middle easier. Karlaftis does have a much smaller mo…</p>peatrick said:100% Von Miller, no question. It's as simple as Colossus being superior to Unstoppable Force, as it also works against double teams. I'm using Barno & Hunter off the edge, both with UF, then Von at DT with Colossus. The smaller player models tend to perform a bit better from the interior, as they can squeeze through gaps that big bois typically get hung up on.
I've kind of tested most DTs, within reason, including Poe (2AP Colossus, cycles all game), Chris Jones, Dexter Lawrence, even Javon Hargrave, just can't justify 4M coins on a DT2 and nothing compares with Colossus. It's the best pass rush ability in the entire game.
George K. was very good for a very long time, both interior and edge rusher, but I replaced him in favor of 0AP UF and never looked back. My edge rushers are 97 & 99 SPD with UF and No Outsiders, as defending the run game can be annoying if someone is committed to it.
Probably going to keep using boosted Arik Armstead at DT2, although he's OOP.
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<p>Thanks for the input, looks like Karl remains DT1. Gonna make a few coins on Von at least.</p>papichulo1858 said:I used Von as a DT when he came out. Dude was a ghost most of the time and that's on a Broncos TT.
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<p>I appreciate you, looks like I’m keeping Karl. Thanks!</p>Eagles215 said:I prefer karlaftis. Vons low str i feel shows up at times and he gets bullied compared to georgie.
At this rate the only card replacing karlaftis at dt for me is....another karlaftis.