Where to put Vanguard

peatrick said:

I was rambling (as i always do) and second-guessing myself this ENTIRE post... didn't have strong feelings on what/where to run Vanguard on the O-line.  At the moment i'm not even using any Vanguard, wanted 2AP Tank on Vernon instead.  Might revamp the abilities and try to more fully commit to the run game, but while almost exclusively playing House Rules, i've barely been toting the rock.  Only to kill clock, if I've got a lead.

Since you can kill clock starting a fourth-quarter possession with a lead and 2:34 or less losing yardage, there is no reason to have Vanguard when playing Showtime Showdown.

getting better at the game rather than use the cheese X factor abilities would be better for you long term

mherzog617 said:

getting better at the game rather than use the cheese X factor abilities would be better for you long term

I’d say I’m prolly decent at the game. I was just wondering which o-lineman it’s better to put vanguard on because rn I use it on my center and idk if it’s making a difference or not

I mean you can run yac and tds at fb and then run like strech out of I form (I always had so much fun with vanguard of fb's in the past so id definatley do it again)

mherzog617 said:

getting better at the game rather than use the cheese X factor abilities would be better for you long term

The thing with Vanguard is that tbh it isn't that cheesy or OP really, but seeing dudes get pancaked Is just so much fun, Thats why I have been using It for YEARS. because I'd much rather do that to beat a guy with a god squad then forcing myself to run gunslinger, set feet lead, hot route master etc and then just spamming zig and corner and deep post routes and such, For me it brings a new dynamic overall and I like it

Vanguard this year not as powerful but i use on 2 guards and TEs or sometimes move it FB

IFORM usually good for runs with those

Put it next to Art Vandelay.

pintusewitzj said:

The thing with Vanguard is that tbh it isn't that cheesy or OP really, but seeing dudes get pancaked Is just so much fun, Thats why I have been using It for YEARS. because I'd much rather do that to beat a guy with a god squad then forcing myself to run gunslinger, set feet lead, hot route master etc and then just spamming zig and corner and deep post routes and such, For me it brings a new dynamic overall and I like it

Hot route master shouldn’t even be a thing you should just get all the routes available such bs my Ea how do you have it in Ncca that way but not madden. just shows how much of a money grab they are trying to sell cards on abilities rather than just make the game play like it should

mherzog617 said:

getting better at the game rather than use the cheese X factor abilities would be better for you long term

so we can’t have fun got it

mherzog617 said:

Hot route master shouldn’t even be a thing you should just get all the routes available such bs my Ea how do you have it in Ncca that way but not madden. just shows how much of a money grab they are trying to sell cards on abilities rather than just make the game play like it should

true that lol, im on pc so I cant have cfb, I would play it over madden e3very day

Vanguard to equivalent to honorary lineman on a tight end. I imagine having it on guards was a scout for the mid blitz cheese. Not entirely a must imo if secure protector is an option

pintusewitzj said:

true that lol, im on pc so I cant have cfb, I would play it over madden e3very day

Secure Protector isn't even in the realm of possibility in Cut lol. Since I run heavy, not only could i not invest in outside shield in cut because it's out zone runs specific, I have to settle for 3 strong grips, and the rest on my free Cam Ward. Ive actually learned unlike in mut where it appears the players get better and abilities get cheaper, in cut the abilities are getting to stupid F***ing expensive, so I've kept lower cards cards in my secondary, for the cheaper 2 point ball hawks, and my main guy is Ray Lewis with Aftershock, ironically is on record committing murder in cut lol

EazyBreezy said:

so we can’t have fun got it

That’s the problem right there why the game is in the state it is . if you think these broken X factor and abilities makes the game fun that’s sad. But people will  pay money to get those players to help win them games rather than get better. Ea will never fix anything if they keep making money

mherzog617 said:

That’s the problem right there why the game is in the state it is . if you think these broken X factor and abilities makes the game fun that’s sad. But people will  pay money to get those players to help win them games rather than get better. Ea will never fix anything if they keep making money

were gonna be in April in 2 weeks 

personally I don’t care about “OP —factors” anymore

not to mention, x factors like UF, double me, and vanguard are no where close of what they used to be so I don’t really see the “OP” part