MVP lamar

RavensFlockLetsFly said:

shouldn't*

Based on your name I’m guessing you’re a little biased

1234321 said:

Based on your name I’m guessing you’re a little biased

fr thats what im saying thats kinda glaze for a mut name that that team got out to my fav team in divisanal round

kallo817 said:

fr thats what im saying thats kinda glaze for a mut name that that team got out to my fav team in divisanal round

I’m not even a bills fan but Allen is the obvious choice

thanks we know hes the only one that can compete with mahomes

but  did anyone see the 4th down play bills and chiefs bc he got the first i was so pissed

CodyWolfgang said:

It was just a failed attempt at a joke haha.

im so stupid lol, my bad man

sooner12m said:

Agreed on that point..as a ravens fan you obviously want your guy,who did have a one of the best seasons ever. But Allen did way more with less, beat both the 1 seeds and locked up division with 6 weeks left in season. Take out Lamar,you still have Henry, 1st team all pro wr, among other players on team.. easily 10-7 team without Lamar. Take out Allen and it's the Cleveland browns. It's more than numbers,it's also how you elevate those around you and produce. Historic offense, has more consecutive 30 points games than the 99 rams and 07 patriots, Allen Sat almost 2 full games worth cause of the bills blowing out teams

I completely disagree with you. James cook who had the same TDs as Henry, a top 3 oline, great vet receiver that didn't do much, shakir that was 3rd in YAC yards this season, a very promising rookie wr, nice wr3/4 that can produce, good run blocking wr, and a top 5 TE group. that doesn't sound like less to me. Zay was not a 1st team all pro wr, he snubbed Brian Thomas Jr out of the pro bowl. Bateman finally broke out, mark started slow (car crash) and ended the REGULAR season on a good note, worse oline than Allen's, don't think Henry could carry this team like he did the titans either. Lamar produced more than Allen this season, look at the numbers. Lamar had less drop backs and attempts and still had 400+ more passing yards and 350+ more rushing yards too. Ravens offense was also historic this season too, they were just behind the bills in scoring stuff. Lamar is the first QB to ever pass for more than 4k yards and rush for another 900, doing that with a 1.9k running back is very impressive. Lamar sat out of plenty games too, one of the games Allen sat out was the 8 minutes left in the 4th after he got blow out and humiliated by the Ravens 35-10 when they had a bottom 5 defense. Lamar destroyed the Texans and broke the all-time QB rushing record that game, Allen was 9/27 in loss vs the Texans. 

Yes he beat both #1 seeds and locked up his division with 6 weeks left, but that is because he is in one of the worst divisions in football. Dolphins got derailed with Tua's inhury and Tyreek didn't do great, Jets defense was shit and Rodgers isnt the same, Pats are the Pats. Ravens have a hard division with the Steelers who knows how to handle Lamar, Bengals who always make it a shootout, and the Browns always putting up a good fight with the help of thier defense. 

LaMV3, case closed

kallo817 said:

fr thats what im saying thats kinda glaze for a mut name that that team got out to my fav team in divisanal round

12 y/o me didnt care

1234321 said:

Based on your name I’m guessing you’re a little biased

slightly, but Lamar had a better season

RavensFlockLetsFly said:

slightly, but Lamar had a better season

Statistically, maybe, but the MVP is the player the carried their team, the ravens would have been a fringe playoff team without Jackson, the Bills would be picking in the top 5 without Allen

1234321 said:

Statistically, maybe, but the MVP is the player the carried their team, the ravens would have been a fringe playoff team without Jackson, the Bills would be picking in the top 5 without Allen

both would be picking atleast top 10

sooner12m said:

Agreed on that point..as a ravens fan you obviously want your guy,who did have a one of the best seasons ever. But Allen did way more with less, beat both the 1 seeds and locked up division with 6 weeks left in season. Take out Lamar,you still have Henry, 1st team all pro wr, among other players on team.. easily 10-7 team without Lamar. Take out Allen and it's the Cleveland browns. It's more than numbers,it's also how you elevate those around you and produce. Historic offense, has more consecutive 30 points games than the 99 rams and 07 patriots, Allen Sat almost 2 full games worth cause of the bills blowing out teams

There are some that will accept this logical argument: Not every statistical achievement by a quarterback is individual in its nature. It didn't happen in a vacuum. There were contributions from the linemen, contributions from the coaches, contributions from a lot of pieces that went ignored in AP voting because the AP is full of guys that literally only evaluate players on the basis of statistical merit. Many of those guys don't have time to cover exclusively football, much less understand the game at a highly technical level. 'Guy throws a lot of touchdowns and few interceptions and wins games? He must be an all-time great.'

I have no real respect for AP Voting. It's better than the aggregate of fan voting for Pro Bowls, but there are so many individual fans that know football better than the majority of AP voters, many of which never played the sport, and have never really demonstrated anything other than that they are effectively parrots of the local sports media echo chamber.

Saquon won't get it. But he should get it. He deserves it.

RavensFlockLetsFly said:

I completely disagree with you. James cook who had the same TDs as Henry, a top 3 oline, great vet receiver that didn't do much, shakir that was 3rd in YAC yards this season, a very promising rookie wr, nice wr3/4 that can produce, good run blocking wr, and a top 5 TE group. that doesn't sound like less to me. Zay was not a 1st team all pro wr, he snubbed Brian Thomas Jr out of the pro bowl. Bateman finally broke out, mark started slow (car crash) and ended the REGULAR season on a good note, worse oline than Allen's, don't think Henry could carry this team like he did the titans either. Lamar produced more than Allen this season, look at the numbers. Lamar had less drop backs and attempts and still had 400+ more passing yards and 350+ more rushing yards too. Ravens offense was also historic this season too, they were just behind the bills in scoring stuff. Lamar is the first QB to ever pass for more than 4k yards and rush for another 900, doing that with a 1.9k running back is very impressive. Lamar sat out of plenty games too, one of the games Allen sat out was the 8 minutes left in the 4th after he got blow out and humiliated by the Ravens 35-10 when they had a bottom 5 defense. Lamar destroyed the Texans and broke the all-time QB rushing record that game, Allen was 9/27 in loss vs the Texans. 

Yes he beat both #1 seeds and locked up his division with 6 weeks left, but that is because he is in one of the worst divisions in football. Dolphins got derailed with Tua's inhury and Tyreek didn't do great, Jets defense was shit and Rodgers isnt the same, Pats are the Pats. Ravens have a hard division with the Steelers who knows how to handle Lamar, Bengals who always make it a shootout, and the Browns always putting up a good fight with the help of thier defense. 

LaMV3, case closed

I get it, as a ravens fan you know you're guy inside and out. I'm not saying Allen or Lamar is going to win,it's just alot tighter race than some may think. I'm a giants fan to the core,but I also have personal favorite players i root for, and Lamar and Allen are at the top of the list. Both were told there not good enough to be successful,granted there 1st round QBs,but weren't really given a shot to succeed by many. I love how both proved a lot of people wrong and they both go about it the right way,both are phenomenal QBs and it sucks only 1 can win..even though Peyton and McNair spit it in early 2000's