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MaddenIsTerrible said:

Josh Allen is so overrated it's not funny. If Baltimore didn't fumble and drop the game away, they would have played the Chiefs and Buffalo would have went home. Allen sucked in the playoffs and he sucks in the big games. Jackson is more versatile and he had a way better year. How in the fuck can anyone have Allen over Lamar for MVP? And i don't root for either team.

Arguably, Allen outplayed Mahomes in the Conference Championship last weekend, but Allen wasn't playing against Mahomes: He was playing against the Chiefs' defense.

If I had to take a throwing runningback rather than fill the quarterback position, I'd select Jackson over Allen.

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phatalerror said:

Arguably, Allen outplayed Mahomes in the Conference Championship last weekend, but Allen wasn't playing against Mahomes: He was playing against the Chiefs' defense.

If I had to take a throwing runningback rather than fill the quarterback position, I'd select Jackson over Allen.

And still lost. Allen isn't good enough

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MaddenIsTerrible said:

And still lost. Allen isn't good enough

Was on the winning team vs. Lamar. Arguably outplayed the quarterback whose team knocked him and his team out of the playoffs.

What do you want from a quarterback? He has to play linebacker as well? There hasn't been a Shohei Ohtani in the NFL for decades.

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phatalerror said:

Was on the winning team vs. Lamar. Arguably outplayed the quarterback whose team knocked him and his team out of the playoffs.

What do you want from a quarterback? He has to play linebacker as well? There hasn't been a Shohei Ohtani in the NFL for decades.

He can't make the big plays when he needs to. He's lucky he won the divisional game

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MaddenIsTerrible said:

He can't make the big plays when he needs to. He's lucky he won the divisional game

Makes the big plays against the Ravens?

I don't know. I could care less about Ravens vs. Bills. But it seems to me you have a double-standard for what a quarterback must be to be one of the best quarterbacks of the year.

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phatalerror said:

Makes the big plays against the Ravens?

I don't know. I could care less about Ravens vs. Bills. But it seems to me you have a double-standard for what a quarterback must be to be one of the best quarterbacks of the year.

He beat the Ravens with 127 yards passing and a 20 yards rushing. I’m not sure how that is considered outplaying, Lamar drove down the field to score with Zay inactive and Bateman on the sidelines injured. The touchdown to close it to 2 was an amazing play when needed, but sadly Marks drop put the final nail in the coffin.

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phatalerror said:

Makes the big plays against the Ravens?

I don't know. I could care less about Ravens vs. Bills. But it seems to me you have a double-standard for what a quarterback must be to be one of the best quarterbacks of the year.

The Ravens beat the Ravens in that game, Allen did nothing at all. Every year, all you here in NY is Allen this, Allen that, and he never does anything. Squeaked by Lamar due to fumbles and bad coaching and got beat by Mahomes again. That's his career so far and i'm sick of hearing about him like he's some unstoppable player.

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SosaChamberlain said:

He beat the Ravens with 127 yards passing and a 20 yards rushing. I’m not sure how that is considered outplaying, Lamar drove down the field to score with Zay inactive and Bateman on the sidelines injured. The touchdown to close it to 2 was an amazing play when needed, but sadly Marks drop put the final nail in the coffin.

Seriously, what the hell did Allen do? Baltimore turned the ball over ane beat themselves and Andrews literally lost the game for them and they still had a chance to win even with all that happening. Allen is so overrated it's not funny and i love seeing him get owned by Mahomes every year. Can't blame Diggs this year.

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SosaChamberlain said:

He beat the Ravens with 127 yards passing and a 20 yards rushing. I’m not sure how that is considered outplaying, Lamar drove down the field to score with Zay inactive and Bateman on the sidelines injured. The touchdown to close it to 2 was an amazing play when needed, but sadly Marks drop put the final nail in the coffin.

I get your argument here. Again, quarterbacks don't play against quarterbacks. And the offensive coordinator was the one who called three running plays for every two pass plays. It's also a little misleading to omit Allen's two rushing touchdowns, as if he did nothing. He also didn't put his team in a hole with an early pick.

You're just simply too tied to stats for us to have an intelligent conversation about this, and there's not enough money in this exercise for me to want to study film and point out merits and flaws.

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phatalerror said:

I get your argument here. Again, quarterbacks don't play against quarterbacks. And the offensive coordinator was the one who called three running plays for every two pass plays. It's also a little misleading to omit Allen's two rushing touchdowns, as if he did nothing. He also didn't put his team in a hole with an early pick.

You're just simply too tied to stats for us to have an intelligent conversation about this, and there's not enough money in this exercise for me to want to study film and point out merits and flaws.

He was held to 6 points in the second half and struggled to move the ball without a short field from turn overs. His lack of production is what kept the Ravens in that ball game.

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MaddenIsTerrible said:

Seriously, what the hell did Allen do? Baltimore turned the ball over ane beat themselves and Andrews literally lost the game for them and they still had a chance to win even with all that happening. Allen is so overrated it's not funny and i love seeing him get owned by Mahomes every year. Can't blame Diggs this year.

I do think he’s a top 4 quarterback but his praise is sung louder than the rest. He’s essentially what Cam Newton was his early years but no one ever talked about Cam in that light.

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RavensFlockLetsFly said:

you do not watch football, negative ball knowledge

Lamars accuracy is not good. Cuz of his running thread he throws to a lot wide open receivers and the ball is still rarely on point. It's low and behind a lot. Yeah he threw a lot of Tds but as always vs good teams in the clutch when he has to throw the ball late they lose more often than not. Once he gets older and his athleticism goes away it's gonna be interesting to see if he can improve his pocket game. He is not a top5 passer.

That two point conversion was also a terrible ball. Low and behind and too much zip on the ball. It was like 5 yards. Yeah Andrews still should have caught it but a two time mvp should throw a better easy 5 yard pass.

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stop hatting on josh Allen yall are just mad that the bills beat the ravens and had to face bullshit against the chiefs from the refs josh allen did better and will be better by the end of his career!!!

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Really want lamar to get the first 3 peat 🙏

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Cizzle said:

Lamars accuracy is not good. Cuz of his running thread he throws to a lot wide open receivers and the ball is still rarely on point. It's low and behind a lot. Yeah he threw a lot of Tds but as always vs good teams in the clutch when he has to throw the ball late they lose more often than not. Once he gets older and his athleticism goes away it's gonna be interesting to see if he can improve his pocket game. He is not a top5 passer.

That two point conversion was also a terrible ball. Low and behind and too much zip on the ball. It was like 5 yards. Yeah Andrews still should have caught it but a two time mvp should throw a better easy 5 yard pass.

so we are just going to ignore he almost broke Arron Rodgers single-season QBR record this year??? gonna ignore him having one of if not the highest completion percentage this season?? if Lamar put that ball out further for Andrews, his momentum would have carried him out of bounds. he put it in the perfect spot for him to get low and fall in. you clearly haven't seen Lamar throw from the pocket. you don't know ball either.

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