M Stroud "colossus "

peatrick said:

I'm not convinced most people at EA understand how blocking calculations work. Things liek weight and strength (which I believe both would count on the sliding "scale") do not seem to have much impact on blocking this year, but in the past, anyone under 300 pounds would get literally pushed around.

Many aspects of this game operate off of thresholds, for example in the competitive tier difficulty, we'd want to hit minimum 90 Zone Coverage stat, at which point DBs begin playing significantly better, but from 91-99 there can be diminishing returns.

It's difficult to find recent info on these various thresholds, but it's probably safe to assume that little has changed in recent years. Regardless, stats barely matter -- abilities are everything, especially passive X-factors as regular abilities. 

Have you seen this Reddit post from a few days ago?

No I’m a reformed Reddit guy lol. Very interesting. It’s cool to get deeper insight into the abilities but I have to disagree on the conclusion. I know everyone likes to make a big deal about abilities, but I’m not convinced. It’s like I said with edge threat, good cards play good no matter what abilities they have. Unless it’s something crazy like unstoppable force.

I’m a learner and I like to get real deep on things. I’ve been playing madden for years kind of obsessing over figuring out the little things that could potentially give me an edge. That started with abilities, then moved to “tug of war ratings”, then finally to schemes where I probably should have started.  What I’ve learned through all of that is, it’s all bullshit, some cards play good, some play bad and it’s most likely because EA has hidden ratings on players.

Ultimately though, scheme is the biggest skill gap between us and pros. It’s the only thing that really matters. There are no offensive abilities that put your guys where the defense isn’t. On the flip side, there are no defensive abilities that will put your guys where the offense wants to go. The abilities are just placebo that is a substitute for actually getting better at the game. 

I’m not throwing shade, I drink the koolaid too. But after studying and soul searching, I learned that the people who are really good at Madden are really good because they play it like a full time job and dedicate themselves to learning every little nuance of the game. I’m willing to admit I’m not as good as them because I’m not that invested.  And that doesn’t make me angry anymore. Competition is a zero sum game and there is no substitute for knowledge in game that is essentially a fast paced and violent strategy game.

 Just my humble opinion.

colonelangus08 said:

No I’m a reformed Reddit guy lol. Very interesting. It’s cool to get deeper insight into the abilities but I have to disagree on the conclusion. I know everyone likes to make a big deal about abilities, but I’m not convinced. It’s like I said with edge threat, good cards play good no matter what abilities they have. Unless it’s something crazy like unstoppable force.

I’m a learner and I like to get real deep on things. I’ve been playing madden for years kind of obsessing over figuring out the little things that could potentially give me an edge. That started with abilities, then moved to “tug of war ratings”, then finally to schemes where I probably should have started.  What I’ve learned through all of that is, it’s all bullshit, some cards play good, some play bad and it’s most likely because EA has hidden ratings on players.

Ultimately though, scheme is the biggest skill gap between us and pros. It’s the only thing that really matters. There are no offensive abilities that put your guys where the defense isn’t. On the flip side, there are no defensive abilities that will put your guys where the offense wants to go. The abilities are just placebo that is a substitute for actually getting better at the game. 

I’m not throwing shade, I drink the koolaid too. But after studying and soul searching, I learned that the people who are really good at Madden are really good because they play it like a full time job and dedicate themselves to learning every little nuance of the game. I’m willing to admit I’m not as good as them because I’m not that invested.  And that doesn’t make me angry anymore. Competition is a zero sum game and there is no substitute for knowledge in game that is essentially a fast paced and violent strategy game.

 Just my humble opinion.

It's not really up for debate. Stats are mostly meaningless, the entire game revolves around stupid abilities. The game doesn't even play correctly without abilities. Offensive line won't block, players on both sides of the ball can't even catch wide open picks (or passes). EA has no clue how to fix any of the issues, so they slap on some more layers of bullshit arcade whatever to correct the terrible coding. 

Ahh, well. Thanks for the detailed, well-written posts. You're an absolute gem and I appreciate the dialogue. So many folks are just straight toxic, as the kids these days liek to say. But what do I know, I'm just a grumpy old man.

peatrick said:

It's not really up for debate. Stats are mostly meaningless, the entire game revolves around stupid abilities. The game doesn't even play correctly without abilities. Offensive line won't block, players on both sides of the ball can't even catch wide open picks (or passes). EA has no clue how to fix any of the issues, so they slap on some more layers of bullshit arcade whatever to correct the terrible coding. 

Ahh, well. Thanks for the detailed, well-written posts. You're an absolute gem and I appreciate the dialogue. So many folks are just straight toxic, as the kids these days liek to say. But what do I know, I'm just a grumpy old man.

I think it’s still up for debate. You may be right about what you’re saying but there are people who figure out a way to be good in spite of all that. I watched a guy play mutchamps with no abilities on his team and he was beating everyone he played and he’s not even a pro. That’s how wide the skill gap is and you aren’t going to make it up with vanguard or pocket deadeye.   

No problem friend. I feel the same way. I don’t think they’re toxic though. I just don’t think you can expect teenagers (actual and mental) to be thoughtful or express anything meaningful lol. They just like to talk shit and clown around lol.

This card plays great even without Colossus

Put him at DE with DoN and Def Rally

He has power moves only, so doesnt use his lower finesse moves rating

His high accell and  pursuit can catch any scrambling QB

peatrick said:

I'd have to say i tend to agree with you here -- Barno has been far and away the best pass rusher in the entire game, especially once he gets going (after 9 players) with that Unstoppable Force.  Combo of ET + DoN is no slouch either, getting both for a mere 1AP is ridiculously good.

Von Miller has been okay, running him OOP at DT, but as you pointed out, he doesn't seem to blow up the 1 on 1s as much as i'd expect (or hope), so always on the look out for something else, but not really in a rush to dump ALL of my AP into a pair of Colossus, especially if the new content is bugged or somehow glitchy.

Unless it's T. Sweat style Spin move glitchy, that i'm here for... all day.  Dude basically teleports across the screen, it's kind of insane.

T sweat is awesome? What do you mean about his spin move?

Woodysky said:

T sweat is awesome? What do you mean about his spin move?

Big hbs get some crazy spin animation with spin-cycle on. If i recall fb Perry has the same crazy animation.

Woodysky said:

T sweat is awesome? What do you mean about his spin move?

Oh my, T. Sweat might be the best card currently in the game. He's absolutely nutty.

It's difficult to explain this Spin move, but you'll know it when you see it. He basically teleports across the screen, it's wild. You could probably grab his 93 Angry Runs card to test it out for yourself on the cheap.

I don't know that any card is truly worth 4M, but after testing him out the other day I bought a second copy, to resell for profit, as it was quite obvious this was THE best running back I've used all year. It's been stupid fun, finally winning a bunch of 4-0 ASAP SB Runs, had just one prior to Sweat.

Granted a bunch were disconnect losses.

Did stroud get fixed yet?

Ayooper said:

Did stroud get fixed yet?

Lol EA working on a sunday? They could care less fixing this. Dont expect it fixed for a few days. They will only rush to the office to fix a glitch thats benefiting the players.

peatrick said:

Oh my, T. Sweat might be the best card currently in the game. He's absolutely nutty.

It's difficult to explain this Spin move, but you'll know it when you see it. He basically teleports across the screen, it's wild. You could probably grab his 93 Angry Runs card to test it out for yourself on the cheap.

I don't know that any card is truly worth 4M, but after testing him out the other day I bought a second copy, to resell for profit, as it was quite obvious this was THE best running back I've used all year. It's been stupid fun, finally winning a bunch of 4-0 ASAP SB Runs, had just one prior to Sweat.

Granted a bunch were disconnect losses.

Ya I can't afford him lmao. He would wipe me clean literally. I'm still using emmit without the ltd haha. He is pretty good for a free card. So with the 93 version of sweat is it his xfactor that ppl want? I didn't see spin cycle. Does he still get the crazy spin move? And when they say steerable spin or juke moves how does that work?

Woodysky said:

Ya I can't afford him lmao. He would wipe me clean literally. I'm still using emmit without the ltd haha. He is pretty good for a free card. So with the 93 version of sweat is it his xfactor that ppl want? I didn't see spin cycle. Does he still get the crazy spin move? And when they say steerable spin or juke moves how does that work?

You just tap circle and watch him zoom zoom, I'm still trying to figure out all the intricacies of who exactly gets this ridiculously good spin move. Not sure if it's based on height, or weight, or some other aspect of the player model. 

It was just two or three days ago that I discovered it finally.

peatrick said:

You just tap circle and watch him zoom zoom, I'm still trying to figure out all the intricacies of who exactly gets this ridiculously good spin move. Not sure if it's based on height, or weight, or some other aspect of the player model. 

It was just two or three days ago that I discovered it finally.

Fb perry has it im pretty sure i remember him doing wild ass huge spins and saying wtf. Gotta be them big boys.

Eagles215 said:

Fb perry has it im pretty sure i remember him doing wild ass huge spins and saying wtf. Gotta be them big boys.

I believe Tony G also gets it, as well. Although I haven't used him, just based off word on the street. Makes sense Fridge would, as well. But I think Team Captain FB does, I'm just starting to figure it out, essentially know nothing.

I pulled an LTD Richard. He is solid but I sold for $2.7m and did stroud set for $620k. colossus doesn’t work but his ability stack is still REALLY Good. He plays Great and I can’t wait for them to fix his colossus