Jamall Charles is still better than Athlete Sweat - prove me wrong

RavensFlockLetsFly said:

exactly, with how bug Sweat is he breaks a ton of tackles as long as there is no secure tackler. IMO Urlacher and Vernon are at the top anymore, other than for the boosts. There are multiple TEs with tank for 1 AP and RoH Todd Heap still has 0 AP tank. Parsons and Pat McAfee (once we get all the tokens) are better than Urlacher too, cheaper stack and Parsons gets a better boost.

Agreed, only 95s I think are good is the Jim Thorpe Kicker (98 KPW and good fake abilities) and Randall WR (0 AP Tank). the Jimmy and Peppers move horribly and don't get the greatest AP for their stacks. good work

Todd Heap-I need to add a whole 98 overall to get him to that stack. That's a no go for me. Vernon Davis is 200k and I stashed so many Combine tokens before they took them away. 

Parsons- is way too expensive at 3 million coins. So that's no for me too.  

Pat Mcafee-EA drags out the tokens on promos for way too long. Just give us the damn 98 now when we could use him. Making us wait one or two weeks to make a card useable is stupid to me. People want to engage with the content now. Not two weeks from now when it doesn't matter. 

Urlacher and Davis clear the aforementioned cards right now. 

Nah Peppers MLB was all over the field last night. I had to watch im heavily because he was lurking from one spot to the next quickly.  I didn't see too many FS Jimmy cards.  I guess his stack is not good.

I agree Jamaal Charles has been one of the best RBs this year. However more and more new cards are getting secure tackler  and extra pop/form tackler for 0 AP. Secure tackler is great for stopping angry runs/freight train and extra pop/form tackler will destroy players without tank.

qwandadon said:

Todd Heap-I need to add a whole 98 overall to get him to that stack. That's a no go for me. Vernon Davis is 200k and I stashed so many Combine tokens before they took them away. 

Parsons- is way too expensive at 3 million coins. So that's no for me too.  

Pat Mcafee-EA drags out the tokens on promos for way too long. Just give us the damn 98 now when we could use him. Making us wait one or two weeks to make a card useable is stupid to me. People want to engage with the content now. Not two weeks from now when it doesn't matter. 

Urlacher and Davis clear the aforementioned cards right now. 

Nah Peppers MLB was all over the field last night. I had to watch im heavily because he was lurking from one spot to the next quickly.  I didn't see too many FS Jimmy cards.  I guess his stack is not good.

im just saying they are better in the game, I don't have Parsons either. 

from what I have seen it looked like he didn't move good. yeah, Jimmy's stack is kinda expensive

RavensFlockLetsFly said:

np man, dont forget Charles is around a 150k rental so you can use him for a while

Yea im just waiting for him to fall to 500 K .

rompcrew3601 said:

Yea im just waiting for him to fall to 500 K .

nice

rompcrew3601 said:

Yea im just waiting for him to fall to 500 K .

They were 450k last night on xbox. Should be reduxed this week or when sugar rush drops the following week.

Emmitt smith every time I play him he is insane. He breaks every tackle known to man

jimshredder said:

What do you run on Charles?

I had to remove Truzz during the AP drop

But I have Heap, McDaniel as my outside WRs with Honorary Lineman, as is Charles can get outside, he breaks off Huge runs

You sound like one of those turds who run stretch 99% of the time.

lachry said:

Freight train, HJ and grab and go I know.  A few other free abilities, but can't remember which.

I also took off truzz during the AP update, but contemplating adding it back since getting my oline down to 0AP w/ the ROH cards not getting a bump in AP.

I also use HL on AJ Brown, Vernon.  Grabbed the new Munoz WR w/ built in vanguard.  Fun combo. 

I do run 75-80% of the time, so I value the passive freight train on Charles, over the tank/size combo of Sweat, but I don't think he's a poor card by any imagination.  If he was a set card, going for set card prices, I would def try him out.

I honestly wanna know this and  I’m not trying to hate too much but what is the fun in playing madden and running almost every play? I’ve never understood the mentality so I’d love to hear someone explain the thought process

kcjr1405 said:

You sound like one of those turds who run stretch 99% of the time.

You sound like one of those turds who makes a new burner account just to be a troll

kcjr1405 said:

I honestly wanna know this and  I’m not trying to hate too much but what is the fun in playing madden and running almost every play? I’ve never understood the mentality so I’d love to hear someone explain the thought process

This year especially, its the easiest way to deal w/ dudes who only know how to set up one specific loop in dollar.

They can't (don't know how) to adjust, and it's fun to watch them start to panic when they get gashed for 10+ yard runs every down.

Playing against someone competent, that rate drops to about 50/50, 60/40.  

I have run an option scheme (BAL/spread PB) the past few years and it's fun to mix it up.  Something different compared to the bunch meta of the past, or normal Y close of the present.

RavensFlockLetsFly said:

combine strat still gives +1 spd

NVM my mistake

jimshredder said:

Change my mind

Charles gets Freight Train for 2 AP and a bunch of 0AP abilities

Hes 99 speed

Hes also 3 million coins less than Sweat

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Unless your name is actually TVondre Sweat, why would you upgrade to him over Charles

I could no longer justify 3AP on Freight Train for Jamaal, even before the AP reduction, it started to feel a bit wasteful, as the run game has been brutal this year -- fast forward (to yesterday) and i splurged on a couple new pieces, adding Munoz (WR1/Slot1) and he's an absolute monster... paired with big boi Sweat and it's difficult to explain how vastly superior he is to the Jamaal Charles i've been using since Combine dropped (lucky LTD pull from pay pig pack).

I don't know how much is attributed to ability stack (specifically Steamroller) versus the massive player build, but this guy breaks so many tackles.  I didn't think i'd be able to squeeze through those tiny gaps in blocking from the O-line, but boy am i ecstatic to be oh so very wrong.  Not only does he squeeze through gaps in blocking, he's breaking tackles to the point where he feels liek he's got perma-Angry Runs.

And i also just discovered that ultra-glitchy (i.e. FAST) spin move on big boi Sweat, he's zooming around the field and i'm only just starting to learn how to truly take advantage of this.  Every ounce of my being wants to truck boyz, but i need to readjust after playing on Conservative ball carrier coaching adjustment settings for the majority of the year.  Fumbled once last night, but i got hit with an ill-timed Avalanche, bleh.

In terms of value, Charles is without a doubt the way to go, but for a mere 2.8M "snipe" yesterday, i'm thrilled to have the opportunity to try this card.  I've used a bunch of high end RBs, including the LTD Eric Dickerson, but Jamaal Charles has been my featured back for the past month, or more.  Now he's just a backup, using him (and Doug) for boosts.

I'm devouring all the Mid Blitz dudes who sit in the same defense all game.

Is Charles worth the coin price if I don’t have the upgrade token?

I have a power coin on Bo nix that (if it’s even possible to do) I can use on Charles once I get a new qb