Jamall Charles is still better than Athlete Sweat - prove me wrong

Change my mind

Charles gets Freight Train for 2 AP and a bunch of 0AP abilities

Hes 99 speed

Hes also 3 million coins less than Sweat

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Unless your name is actually TVondre Sweat, why would you upgrade to him over Charles

Animations Sweat would get due to his size would be the only caveat.  The big dudes get a lot better break tackle/truck animations

I am also still using Charles, and have no reason to swap.  He started out rough for me when he first dropped, but he's played well since then.

1. Size and the animations that come with it
2. Tank and a cheaper ability stack in general 
3. Some people don't run enough to use 3 AP on an XF/XF Ability 
4. can get Sweat to 99 spd with 20 titans and Doug Martin

i dont have either, Thorpe has been fun for me. i like how he doesnt have a facemask lol

lachry said:

Animations Sweat would get due to his size would be the only caveat.  The big dudes get a lot better break tackle/truck animations

I am also still using Charles, and have no reason to swap.  He started out rough for me when he first dropped, but he's played well since then.

What do you run on Charles?

I had to remove Truzz during the AP drop

But I have Heap, McDaniel as my outside WRs with Honorary Lineman, as is Charles can get outside, he breaks off Huge runs

RavensFlockLetsFly said:

1. Size and the animations that come with it
2. Tank and a cheaper ability stack in general 
3. Some people don't run enough to use 3 AP on an XF/XF Ability 
4. can get Sweat to 99 spd with 20 titans and Doug Martin

i dont have either, Thorpe has been fun for me. i like how he doesnt have a facemask lol

All good points ;)

jimshredder said:

Change my mind

Charles gets Freight Train for 2 AP and a bunch of 0AP abilities

Hes 99 speed

Hes also 3 million coins less than Sweat

.

Unless your name is actually TVondre Sweat, why would you upgrade to him over Charles

If i could get him to 99 without having to buy Dougie D and a 20 kc tt i would use him in a minute.

rompcrew3601 said:

If i could get him to 99 without having to buy Dougie D and a 20 kc tt i would use him in a minute.

combine strat still gives +1 spd

jimshredder said:

All good points ;)

also just checked the card and the freight train is 3 ap

RavensFlockLetsFly said:

combine strat still gives +1 spd

Forgot all about the strat item,i may just have to bite the bullet and grab him and  Doug .If it doesnt work out the worse that can happen is im out a few coins.Good lookin....

jimshredder said:

What do you run on Charles?

I had to remove Truzz during the AP drop

But I have Heap, McDaniel as my outside WRs with Honorary Lineman, as is Charles can get outside, he breaks off Huge runs

Freight train, HJ and grab and go I know.  A few other free abilities, but can't remember which.

I also took off truzz during the AP update, but contemplating adding it back since getting my oline down to 0AP w/ the ROH cards not getting a bump in AP.

I also use HL on AJ Brown, Vernon.  Grabbed the new Munoz WR w/ built in vanguard.  Fun combo. 

I do run 75-80% of the time, so I value the passive freight train on Charles, over the tank/size combo of Sweat, but I don't think he's a poor card by any imagination.  If he was a set card, going for set card prices, I would def try him out.

RavensFlockLetsFly said:

1. Size and the animations that come with it
2. Tank and a cheaper ability stack in general 
3. Some people don't run enough to use 3 AP on an XF/XF Ability 
4. can get Sweat to 99 spd with 20 titans and Doug Martin

i dont have either, Thorpe has been fun for me. i like how he doesnt have a facemask lol

That 3 AP on Freight train when they just cut us to 9 is the biggest point. EA killed off using Xfactors as abilities when they cut our AP total. They did this on purpose to get us to buy new cards and spend more money.  The combine cards like Pat Pete, Vernon Davis, Ross, Hunter, Barno, Long, Urlacher, and Ramsey still dominate the game.  

I just smoked several people in the all star playoff event and they had all the Allstar 95 cards boosted to a 98 (OOP peppers, graham, gonzalez etc), which means they spent millions on new cards yesterday. The Combine card's ability stacks, their positional boosts, and their attributes are just far better than any card we received this year. EA messed up when they made the abilities permanent.  They will stay on my roster all year.

Jamaal charles is the best rb ive used all year. Due to his skinny frame/fast smooth motions, he can hit holes without being touched where other bigger frame rbs will get grabbed by the defender.  He just moves differently compared to the rest.

rompcrew3601 said:

Forgot all about the strat item,i may just have to bite the bullet and grab him and  Doug .If it doesnt work out the worse that can happen is im out a few coins.Good lookin....

np man, dont forget Charles is around a 150k rental so you can use him for a while

qwandadon said:

That 3 AP on Freight train when they just cut us to 9 is the biggest point. EA killed off using Xfactors as abilities when they cut our AP total. They did this on purpose to get us to buy new cards and spend more money.  The combine cards like Pat Pete, Vernon Davis, Ross, Hunter, Barno, Long, Urlacher, and Ramsey still dominate the game.  

I just smoked several people in the all star playoff event and they had all the Allstar 95 cards boosted to a 98 (OOP peppers, graham, gonzalez etc), which means they spent millions on new cards yesterday. The Combine card's ability stacks, their positional boosts, and their attributes are just far better than any card we received this year. EA messed up when they made the abilities permanent.  They will stay on my roster all year.

exactly, with how bug Sweat is he breaks a ton of tackles as long as there is no secure tackler. IMO Urlacher and Vernon are at the top anymore, other than for the boosts. There are multiple TEs with tank for 1 AP and RoH Todd Heap still has 0 AP tank. Parsons and Pat McAfee (once we get all the tokens) are better than Urlacher too, cheaper stack and Parsons gets a better boost.

Agreed, only 95s I think are good is the Jim Thorpe Kicker (98 KPW and good fake abilities) and Randall WR (0 AP Tank). the Jimmy and Peppers move horribly and don't get the greatest AP for their stacks. good work