Best CB in the game??….

OvOSzn said:

Also I had Lester Hayes for a while I don’t like how his Univ Coverage goes off tho for some plays where if he’s targeted he can give up a big play. 
Boldin was solid I actually thought he would be a menace for me with the 49ers’ TT but he didn’t do anything out the norm and didn’t produce like Moss and Parham did so I sold him

I continue to waffle on my setup, specifically for Boldin -- even with 99 CTH stat, he still bats and swats at a ton of balls if I don't have the 2AP Shutdown (passive) ability on him, which doubles as both One Step Ahead & Pick Artist.  I'd prefer to merely run OSA & Deep Route KO, but somebody is always lacking either KO abilities, or Pick Artist.  Kind of unfortunate we still are basically required to run Pick Artist if we wanna make any plays on the ball, even in mid-late July... oh well.  Kind of an indictment on how little stats truly matter and the entire game is based around abilities, above all else.

As far as Lester Hayes, you are again spot on here, if i only run 0AP Pick Artist on him, in addition to the 1AP (starts-on) Universal Coverage X-factor, then he's without any KOs for more than half the game.  Feels somewhat wasteful or redundant to put Deep Route KO on top of him with the UC ability, but that's often how i approach it.  Although, basically the same scenario with Boldin.  If i don't have Pick Artist on him, then he can't catch shit, only swats at the ball instead of making plays.  So lately i'm living dangerously and skipping the DRKO, only running PA + UC.

Curious that Moss has played well for you, i found him to be severely overrated.  He's tall, but kind of lumbers around and PA + Acrobat kind of sucks, at least compared with DJ Turner's PA + Deep Route KO for 0AP stack.  Or even Christian Gonzalez, or Emmanuel Forbes RP.

TheNickSix said:

Dark Horse budget candidate 98 gamechanger Kendall Fuller made so many plays for me.

Yhh he was actually elite for a period of time, still useable if you were lacking coins

peatrick said:

I continue to waffle on my setup, specifically for Boldin -- even with 99 CTH stat, he still bats and swats at a ton of balls if I don't have the 2AP Shutdown (passive) ability on him, which doubles as both One Step Ahead & Pick Artist.  I'd prefer to merely run OSA & Deep Route KO, but somebody is always lacking either KO abilities, or Pick Artist.  Kind of unfortunate we still are basically required to run Pick Artist if we wanna make any plays on the ball, even in mid-late July... oh well.  Kind of an indictment on how little stats truly matter and the entire game is based around abilities, above all else.

As far as Lester Hayes, you are again spot on here, if i only run 0AP Pick Artist on him, in addition to the 1AP (starts-on) Universal Coverage X-factor, then he's without any KOs for more than half the game.  Feels somewhat wasteful or redundant to put Deep Route KO on top of him with the UC ability, but that's often how i approach it.  Although, basically the same scenario with Boldin.  If i don't have Pick Artist on him, then he can't catch shit, only swats at the ball instead of making plays.  So lately i'm living dangerously and skipping the DRKO, only running PA + UC.

Curious that Moss has played well for you, i found him to be severely overrated.  He's tall, but kind of lumbers around and PA + Acrobat kind of sucks, at least compared with DJ Turner's PA + Deep Route KO for 0AP stack.  Or even Christian Gonzalez, or Emmanuel Forbes RP.

I agree a thousand percent With what you said. I had Boldin with no PA and he had a tonnn of Pass Deflections but not a lot of INT’s !

if I had the AP I would run shutdown but I don’t and that still leaves you without any KO’s on him smh. 
 

and yup same with with Lester half the game his Universal is off 

yeah and for Moss I have PA, Acro and DRKO for 1 AP total and he’s been a dog. He’s juiced up to 99 everything with the 49ers TT he still gets beat sometimes but I feel that happens to every corner bcuz I do play a lot of man and press

peatrick said:

Fantastic question, one of THE most importation positions on the field, at least the defensive side of the ball.  Do you play primarily Zone or Man schemes?  For me personally, i'm super biased, been running a boosted 49ers TT since that promo dropped.  Not sure it gets much better than this.  I almost exclusively run Man to Man.  Sometimes Cover 0, but quite often Cover 2 Man with Chad Johnson & Joey Porter Jr. deep safety help.  Both with Universal Coverage X-factor, always-on.  In the box I have Jamal Adams and Kyle Hamilton.

1. Anquan Boldin (0AP OSA + 1AP Deep Route KO) -- hands down one of, if not THE best straight Man Corner in the game, especially if you have boosted team chems, he's fierce in both run and pass defense with darn near max stats
2. Lester Hayes (1AP Universal Coverage, starts on + 0AP Deep Route KO + 1AP Pick Artist) -- i've waffled a bit, he was CB1 for a while, but i just recently moved him back to CB2
3. Deion Sanders (0AP Pick Artist + 0AP Mid Route KO) -- quite possibly THE best corner in the entire game, easily the most productive on my roster.  Feels liek Prime Time has liek 150-200 Awareness & Play Recognition stats, he's an absolute ball hawk even lacking Inside Shade
4. DJ Turner (0AP Pick Artist + 0AP Inside Shade) -- i tried Gonzalez, but i still think DJ has a slight edge, despite no team chems

BONUS:  Chris McAlister -- I haven't used him, but probably should have, has to still be one of the best Slot corners in the entire game.

EDIT:  If you're not still running Pick Artist in late July, you're potentially missing out.  Crazy how it's required even with players that have max 99 CTH stat.  /sigh

I love how you explained this. very solid 👌.  who is at Slot?

TBone75 said:

I love how you explained this. very solid 👌.  who is at Slot?

1. Slot1 = Deion Prime Time Sanders
2. Slot2 = DJ Turner, although this position has probably changed more than anything on my entire roster

I feel liek i've been through every CB in the game that gets 49ers team chems and a bunch that do not (assuming they had 0AP Inside Shade; Revis, Aeneas, Ronnie Lott, etc).  I thought Randy Moss CB was going to be THE man here, but i found him slower than smaller corners, not sure what it was, but his reaction time kind of sucked, almost as if he was too big to turn around as quickly as the rest that i've used.  I briefly tinkered with Gonzalez RP here, but DJ Turner continues to play extremely well, even without team chems (i'm using all three tokens on the O-line).

Deion still easily THE most productive DB on the squad, i've been trying to replace him for months, but no one seems to be as aggressive at taking the ball away, he's just an absolute monster, ball hawkin son of a bitch.  I'm running out of things to spend coin on, so was tempted to check out that McAlister Mold Breaker, but kind of snoozed on that entire promo.  Just did what was necessary to finish the challenges, etc.

OMG - Theme Team remix SAUCE Gardner is THE BEST shut down corner in the game.... period. Sorry - late to the thread lol 

I tried different combos but he and free  season 4 TREVON DIGGS stop everybody....

readysetglooo said:

OMG - Theme Team remix SAUCE Gardner is THE BEST shut down corner in the game.... period. Sorry - late to the thread lol 

I tried different combos but he and free  season 4 TREVON DIGGS stop everybody....

Really, you play Man or Zone primarily?  Trevon Diggs i thought was more a Zone DB... i am fairly certain i quicksold him, cuz Cowgrrls don't typically make my lineup, with a few rare exceptions.  I don't count Deion, he's a 49er, obviously.  Or Falcon, even.

But Sauce, eh?  I still have Bosa TTR in my starting roster, but he's no longer a dedicated pass rusher, there's so many better cards out there now, especially with dual 0AP ability buckets.  Do you have J-E-T-S boosted team chems on him or anything?  What ability stack?  Not something I expected on this list, but i'm sure there's tons of stuff i miss all the time.  As long as it says Plays Ball in Air \= Aggressive i'm open to considering it.

I'll almost certainly be taking Sauce as my MUT `24 pre-order bonus reward.  As much as i'd love to have JJetta, i typically prioritize DBs over basically all else.

Who do y’all think is the best Golden Ticket Cornerback?

FaZeMyles17 said:

Who do y’all think is the best Golden Ticket Cornerback?

Carmichael was a beast for me. And Parham is a DOG, gets Free PA and DRKO if you play man which I do.

Brents is crazy for me. He picked off a corner route while in a flat zone TWICE in one game, and also gotta pick when I ran commit. He’s really good.

peatrick said:

Really, you play Man or Zone primarily?  Trevon Diggs i thought was more a Zone DB... i am fairly certain i quicksold him, cuz Cowgrrls don't typically make my lineup, with a few rare exceptions.  I don't count Deion, he's a 49er, obviously.  Or Falcon, even.

But Sauce, eh?  I still have Bosa TTR in my starting roster, but he's no longer a dedicated pass rusher, there's so many better cards out there now, especially with dual 0AP ability buckets.  Do you have J-E-T-S boosted team chems on him or anything?  What ability stack?  Not something I expected on this list, but i'm sure there's tons of stuff i miss all the time.  As long as it says Plays Ball in Air \= Aggressive i'm open to considering it.

I'll almost certainly be taking Sauce as my MUT `24 pre-order bonus reward.  As much as i'd love to have JJetta, i typically prioritize DBs over basically all else.

LOL Deion went into the HALL with what team? Oh...COWBOYZ BABY! Anywho - I think any corner who swats the ball and comes up with picks almost every time you throw his way is a great corner in this game.... I've used all three Sauce(s) and never complained.....he just sits back and does his job.... anyway - this year is my last year for Madden - I mean the dude passed away - a great series but this one had SO many problems....

readysetglooo said:

LOL Deion went into the HALL with what team? Oh...COWBOYZ BABY! Anywho - I think any corner who swats the ball and comes up with picks almost every time you throw his way is a great corner in this game.... I've used all three Sauce(s) and never complained.....he just sits back and does his job.... anyway - this year is my last year for Madden - I mean the dude passed away - a great series but this one had SO many problems....

I respect you walking away. 23 was my first time back in decades, gonna try one more year before retiring again. I wish I had your balls. I finally pussied out and dropped a Deluxe pre-order right before July 22nd deadline heh.

We'll see if I make it through a full cycle. I started kinda late, created my first MUT squad in December. Despise EA at this point, but NFL Pro Era on PSVR2 doesn't quite land the same.