came back after a break and the game is worse than ever.

So much cheesy crap. And now my cheesy crap is unstoppable with all the vanguards i can have on the field now(5 active vanguards), i'm rushing for 500 and scoring every play (it's not HB direct, it's even worse).  It's just a race of cheese now. Can't believe i wasted 1200 plus hours of my life on this garbage game. 

I did win the event the other day on my second try.  

Some tips if they bring it back:

You must have a  mind reader on the field, can't believe i played most of my games against people who didn't. 

and a quick counter to that, if the other person has mind reader and you try a run play, a split second before you snap switch the side the run is going too.

I can't let myself do this again next year.  I'm wondering if i should give out my play and the set up and cause a whole new cheese fest comparable to the HB direct.

how do u get 5 vanguards :)

larry allen the guard, FB Ricard(gold border toty) and Laporta(blocking type ghenki card) have vanguard in a special bucket that doesn't  count as x factors and are always on.  Tip you can sub FB's into o line spots in the lineup screen only. Then i have The Diesel and The Weatherman which has x factors that when coupled with persistent has vanguard on for i think 8 plays then off for 4 or something and back on.  Tip you can sub FB's into WR positions in the lineup page... Then you will have one x factor spot available for you freight train running back. 

Combined with some other cheesy stuff i can score every play, but the problem is now that everyone has cheese on offense and they can score every play too.  There's no defense and it kinda sucks and is boring.

swatthatdot said:

larry allen the guard, FB Ricard(gold border toty) and Laporta(blocking type ghenki card) have vanguard in a special bucket that doesn't  count as x factors and are always on.  Tip you can sub FB's into o line spots in the lineup screen only. Then i have The Diesel and The Weatherman which has x factors that when coupled with persistent has vanguard on for i think 8 plays then off for 4 or something and back on.  Tip you can sub FB's into WR positions in the lineup page... Then you will have one x factor spot available for you freight train running back. 

Combined with some other cheesy stuff i can score every play, but the problem is now that everyone has cheese on offense and they can score every play too.  There's no defense and it kinda sucks and is boring.

What offense playbook are you using?

swatthatdot said:

So much cheesy crap. And now my cheesy crap is unstoppable with all the vanguards i can have on the field now(5 active vanguards), i'm rushing for 500 and scoring every play (it's not HB direct, it's even worse).  It's just a race of cheese now. Can't believe i wasted 1200 plus hours of my life on this garbage game. 

I did win the event the other day on my second try.  

Some tips if they bring it back:

You must have a  mind reader on the field, can't believe i played most of my games against people who didn't. 

and a quick counter to that, if the other person has mind reader and you try a run play, a split second before you snap switch the side the run is going too.

I can't let myself do this again next year.  I'm wondering if i should give out my play and the set up and cause a whole new cheese fest comparable to the HB direct.

You needed a break to see this?

swatthatdot said:

larry allen the guard, FB Ricard(gold border toty) and Laporta(blocking type ghenki card) have vanguard in a special bucket that doesn't  count as x factors and are always on.  Tip you can sub FB's into o line spots in the lineup screen only. Then i have The Diesel and The Weatherman which has x factors that when coupled with persistent has vanguard on for i think 8 plays then off for 4 or something and back on.  Tip you can sub FB's into WR positions in the lineup page... Then you will have one x factor spot available for you freight train running back. 

Combined with some other cheesy stuff i can score every play, but the problem is now that everyone has cheese on offense and they can score every play too.  There's no defense and it kinda sucks and is boring.

oh I don’t have gold border Ricard that’s why

I didn’t know about laporta tho ima add him

So you are upset that the game is bad because of the cheese, yet you admit all you do is run something super cheesey. You are one of the sweaty cheesers that ruin the game!

carlwinslo84 said:

So you are upset that the game is bad because of the cheese, yet you admit all you do is run something super cheesey. You are one of the sweaty cheesers that ruin the game!

we need a cheesy defense to balance things out lol. Offense is too easy and cheesy.

swatthatdot said:

So much cheesy crap. And now my cheesy crap is unstoppable with all the vanguards i can have on the field now(5 active vanguards), i'm rushing for 500 and scoring every play (it's not HB direct, it's even worse).  It's just a race of cheese now. Can't believe i wasted 1200 plus hours of my life on this garbage game. 

I did win the event the other day on my second try.  

Some tips if they bring it back:

You must have a  mind reader on the field, can't believe i played most of my games against people who didn't. 

and a quick counter to that, if the other person has mind reader and you try a run play, a split second before you snap switch the side the run is going too.

I can't let myself do this again next year.  I'm wondering if i should give out my play and the set up and cause a whole new cheese fest comparable to the HB direct.

My defense would stop you

Bottlenecks on outside DBs

Tackle Supreme, Reinforcement on Sub Nickle LBs - Sonny Styles/Kyle Hamilton Gold border

Inside Stuff, Tackle Supreme on DTs - Haynesworth, ROH Suh

No Outsides, Tackle Supreme on Edges - Aaron Donald, ROH Bennett

Then I'd user tackle you with my Safety with Tackle Supreme until you started passing - Brisker

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I was able to stop @EazyBreezy ...and he has the most dominant run offensive ive seen and that was before I got my 2 reinforcements (2) bottlenecks and momentum shift

Good day 

Once again It looks more and more that I was right about this game needing a cooldown mode because of the way the game is presented to the players with bad pack odds and no trading cards and bnds  etc people are obnoxious and if they can find away to get rewards easily then they will do anything to obtain them.

Why would you want to run every play? Even if it works you aren’t getting any better.

jimshredder said:

My defense would stop you

Bottlenecks on outside DBs

Tackle Supreme, Reinforcement on Sub Nickle LBs - Sonny Styles/Kyle Hamilton Gold border

Inside Stuff, Tackle Supreme on DTs - Haynesworth, ROH Suh

No Outsides, Tackle Supreme on Edges - Aaron Donald, ROH Bennett

Then I'd user tackle you with my Safety with Tackle Supreme until you started passing - Brisker

.

I was able to stop @EazyBreezy ...and he has the most dominant run offensive ive seen and that was before I got my 2 reinforcements (2) bottlenecks and momentum shift

Maybe, it would be interesting. I've beat plenty top 100 guys with it. If you do come out in a formation that will stop it there is a way to motion snap that counters most of that. Its crazy to watch 5 vanguards going down field just knocking everyone out, kinda funny actually lol. This cheese play has been secretly good for years and end year with vanguard just make it even more stupid.

I just cant bring myself to play anymore. There is no defense at all. So boring for both people to just endlessly score until maybe EA causes some kind of fluke fumble or int on a wild throw or it comes down to time management.

I need a cheesy defense lol

swatthatdot said:

Maybe, it would be interesting. I've beat plenty top 100 guys with it. If you do come out in a formation that will stop it there is a way to motion snap that counters most of that. Its crazy to watch 5 vanguards going down field just knocking everyone out, kinda funny actually lol. This cheese play has been secretly good for years and end year with vanguard just make it even more stupid.

I just cant bring myself to play anymore. There is no defense at all. So boring for both people to just endlessly score until maybe EA causes some kind of fluke fumble or int on a wild throw or it comes down to time management.

I need a cheesy defense lol

Out my way on my edges + no outsiders makes your vanguards obsolete 

No you don’t need cheese to stop cheese. Learn to play without relying on glitches just to have you compete, let alone win.  Game gets much easier that way.

jimshredder said:

My defense would stop you

Bottlenecks on outside DBs

Tackle Supreme, Reinforcement on Sub Nickle LBs - Sonny Styles/Kyle Hamilton Gold border

Inside Stuff, Tackle Supreme on DTs - Haynesworth, ROH Suh

No Outsides, Tackle Supreme on Edges - Aaron Donald, ROH Bennett

Then I'd user tackle you with my Safety with Tackle Supreme until you started passing - Brisker

.

I was able to stop @EazyBreezy ...and he has the most dominant run offensive ive seen and that was before I got my 2 reinforcements (2) bottlenecks and momentum shift

alright bro