Probably megatron. Imagine your 95-90 OVR corners trying to guard 6’5 (I’m assuming it would have:) 98 speed, 99 spec catch WR
Peanut Tillman or Devin Hester
Donald parham corner
Moss his 93 is a beast dunks on people and toe taps everything he would be unstoppable with 99 speed
For my Chiefs TT it’s gotta be MVS, 6’4” fast and not likely to get an upgrade.
RihannaKindaMid said:Patrick Willis, my favorite player ever, I think if he plays 15 seasons he goes down as the best defensive player of all time by a mile.
Who? Lmao
LeftHandUp said:Who? Lmao
You're a casual among casuals🤡
Ap we need him now
RihannaKindaMid said:You're a casual among casuals🤡
Best defensive player of all time? He isn't even in the running for his position you clown. No one would ever mention his name in a conversation about the best defensive players of all time. Go watch Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher and tell me he was anywhere near them. Shit even Tedy Bruschi was better. We're not gonna talk about Lawrence Taylor, Jack Lambert, or Carl Banks. Maybe you're better off comparing him to Bobby Wagner or Luke Keuchly but even then...
LeftHandUp said:Best defensive player of all time? He isn't even in the running for his position you clown. No one would ever mention his name in a conversation about the best defensive players of all time. Go watch Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher and tell me he was anywhere near them. Shit even Tedy Bruschi was better. We're not gonna talk about Lawrence Taylor, Jack Lambert, or Carl Banks. Maybe you're better off comparing him to Bobby Wagner or Luke Keuchly but even then...
1. I said if he didn't retire after 7 1/2 seasons, same situation as Kuechly except Kuechly was a stat padder on a Panthers D that didn't have anybody making the other tackles except for the edges.
2. On a per game basis in terms of average tackles and other stats him and Ray are pretty identical, also don't even mention shitty Bruschi, who had 50 less solo tackles even tho he played 67 more games, Urlacher also on a per game averaged a tackle less than Willis, with the rest of the averages being the same. Jack Lambert played before most stats existed, so the only way to tell is by watching his game film and comparing it to Willis, but it's impossible to compare the late 70's to the late 2000's because we both know that's like comparing Oscar Robertson to Steph Curry. Comparing an edge rusher to a inside linebacker is tough too, how am I supposed to compare guys that try to do completely opposite things and roles, one wants to get the tackle and fill the gap and the other wants to set the edge and get to the QB at all costs. Banks grew up about 20 minutes from me, but he isn't even a HOF because of him only being all pro once and his little statistical performance, which surprised me that he was 80's all decade, but he definitely is a bit overrated even tho he is one of my favorites too.
3. I'm not going to compare a inside linebacker to anybody else besides an inside linebacker, unless we're comparing them to a box safety like Kam or Lott.
4. I feel like the best defensive player is way more up in the air than the best offensive player, especially when you have big what if's like Sean T and Derrick Thomas.
Just my opinion🤷
RihannaKindaMid said:1. I said if he didn't retire after 7 1/2 seasons, same situation as Kuechly except Kuechly was a stat padder on a Panthers D that didn't have anybody making the other tackles except for the edges.
2. On a per game basis in terms of average tackles and other stats him and Ray are pretty identical, also don't even mention shitty Bruschi, who had 50 less solo tackles even tho he played 67 more games, Urlacher also on a per game averaged a tackle less than Willis, with the rest of the averages being the same. Jack Lambert played before most stats existed, so the only way to tell is by watching his game film and comparing it to Willis, but it's impossible to compare the late 70's to the late 2000's because we both know that's like comparing Oscar Robertson to Steph Curry. Comparing an edge rusher to a inside linebacker is tough too, how am I supposed to compare guys that try to do completely opposite things and roles, one wants to get the tackle and fill the gap and the other wants to set the edge and get to the QB at all costs. Banks grew up about 20 minutes from me, but he isn't even a HOF because of him only being all pro once and his little statistical performance, which surprised me that he was 80's all decade, but he definitely is a bit overrated even tho he is one of my favorites too.
3. I'm not going to compare a inside linebacker to anybody else besides an inside linebacker, unless we're comparing them to a box safety like Kam or Lott.
4. I feel like the best defensive player is way more up in the air than the best offensive player, especially when you have big what if's like Sean T and Derrick Thomas.
Just my opinion🤷
This is a really solid opinion lol. I like all the effort you put into the argument. You really didn't leave any gaps haha. I just thought when you said he would have been defensive goat by a mile it was a bit of an overstatement.