<p>No don't get me wrong I think jalens top 5 (Lamar, burrow, Allen, hurts and goff) my next would be either baker or Daniels(Daniels will be top 5 fs next year. And I left out mahomes because I think he rarely performs well and gets carried by his d. …</p>TexansAreThem said:That is true but even tho he hogs the ball on the goal line all the time 😂 I still believe he can pass better than most at least top 15
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<p>🤣Jalen ain't top 10 but Stafford(who he beat) Rodger who no one wants and burrow who missed the playoffs are. I totally agree with burrow don't get me wrong, but winning is a QB stat somehow we forget that</p>TexansAreThem said:Erm I'm sorry but this is the sort of scenario where stats DON'T matter. He literally just one the super bowl beating Mahomes and having a better passer rating and you say he is not top 10?
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<p>Man all your best passers threw more picks than Lamar and hurts, but you say they can't make a read? Just because they use there legs they suck? If it the right decision and there winning games they deserve credit. Also leaving Allen if that list is…</p>Cizzle said:Lamar would be in it. But not cuz he is a great passer. Cuz overall his play is effective.
Current players Burrow, Rodgers and Stafford are the best pure passers.
Pre snap reads, going through your progression, looking of defenders became a lost art. Manning, Brees and Brady are so far ahead in those aspects of almost any Qb today.
I watch a lotta coaches film. So many Qbs like Lamar lock on to a receiver and follow him.over thr whole field. Waiting til he gets open cuz they know their athleticism can bail them out. That's also why they don't throw a lot of pics. Going through your progression and making split second decisions also leads to more mistakes. Even if you are great. Rule changes made Qb play also much easier and stats are inflated cuz of that. Once those rules got instated. Guys like Brees and Manning threw for 5k with ease.
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<p>Maybe it's just specific players? I had thuney at backup guard and subbed him in at fullback in I form and put Ogden at TE not sure if it changed but that was like a at start of ROH</p>HeCalledGame said:Please educate me, I tried to do it in an IForm once and couldn't. Haven't tried again but have slick been wondering.
(Didn't wanna look like that kid by asking when the whole class already knows)
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<p>Dawg id love to here your top 10 players. Mahomes has had a top defense 3 years running, but he gets all the praise. Jalens succeeded every year even though 2023 our d was awful but we still had a winning record and made the playoffs</p>Cizzle said:Joe Flacco, Eli Manning, Brad Johnson, Phil Simms, Jeff Hostetler, Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien, Joe Theisman, Doug Williams all have a ring. Some even multiple. Are they all time greats?
Hurts has a top3 D and rush attack. The same as almost everybody above.
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<p>What's the logic for the eagles success in the playoffs then? If he's mediocre and carried then how come he always performa great when the time comes? There's a lot of hate going around but he's the only one with a ring</p>Cizzle said:Lamar can't hit a barn door. He misses wide open receivers regularly. Yeah the whole package of hin wins games but he is an average passer who benefits from the D walking down cuz of his running threat and the run O overall. There is a reason he folds in the playoffs.
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<p>Lot of people here don't know ball, last year Philly's d was atrocious which is why we got a new coordinator and this year Baltimores d struggled all year. Burrow has arguably the best receivers and all they do is pass the ball. I think Joe's a good…</p>RavensFlockLetsFly said:lamar got carried by a defense that was 30th in the league up until week 11? sure.....
bengals arguably could have sweeped us with how bad our defense was. they missed the kick in OT (vs. us) and they could've gotten the 2 point conversion or kicked a FG and beaten us in OT (@ us). Lamar also had one of the worst olines at the start but you wouldn't know that by looking at stats bc he is able to get out of there most of the time.
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<p>yuppers, so does staley</p>Woodysky said:Saturday has free secure? Does he have all day for 0 also?