Zone KOs- Should they be more expensive? Should D AP be lowered?

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amen brother, you’d think i pushed his grandma down the stairs or something lol

SportsPerson94 said:

This place is getting toxic. Why does everyone keep fighting?

Because few of us actually care about Madden and remember when it was good, and would love for the game to be great at every level again. But far too many are content being EA sycophants and whales, feeding EA ruining the game.

max4pf said:

It has nothing to do with that. What you said is why its a problem. I can read a defense perfectly and because of KO's it won't matter. Surprisingly, people don't want to have to run stock verts to play the game.

I'm grouping both  you and Tardwrangler  in this situation.....

"Anyone defending KOs isn't serious about Madden being a good game, they just want EA to play for them and bail them out at every possible turn.
Abilities ruin the game, they're either stuff that should be stock across the board or broken garbage for shitters." "Just say you've never played Madden before it became Pokémon and that you don't know what you're talking about."

who said madden was a good game when MUT was  introduced in  the first place? sorry that EA didn't stay on the same engine in madden 16-17 with the same employment back then, shouldn't of never changed to a FPS engine at all.....none of the extra crap outside of speed and acceleration don't even matter in this game and they can't magically make DB's react to  elongated corner routes in this game running a variety of zone drops (there's 3 types of corner routes.)

now to you Max, if you can read defenses perfectly, there's no input topic to this  discussion, I've seen too many threads during the mid-way mark of how you stop this and this and this over a 3 month span on this site  people run bunch and singleback wing slot every game. I'm not saying everybody is a MCS Player and  I'm not gonna say there's a lot of dumb players 

BUT NOT EVERYONE IS BOO BOO DA FOOL PLAYING THIS GAME.

TardWrangler said:

Because few of us actually care about Madden and remember when it was good, and would love for the game to be great at every level again. But far too many are content being EA sycophants and whales, feeding EA ruining the game.

Yea i miss those days dude. It's a shitshow now

For some reason, this post reminded me of Peatrick, he's like a piece keeper here. Wonder if he said fuck it and left the board due to the toxic bullshit.

theoriginalkbgames33 said:

I'm grouping both  you and Tardwrangler  in this situation.....

"Anyone defending KOs isn't serious about Madden being a good game, they just want EA to play for them and bail them out at every possible turn.
Abilities ruin the game, they're either stuff that should be stock across the board or broken garbage for shitters." "Just say you've never played Madden before it became Pokémon and that you don't know what you're talking about."

who said madden was a good game when MUT was  introduced in  the first place? sorry that EA didn't stay on the same engine in madden 16-17 with the same employment back then, shouldn't of never changed to a FPS engine at all.....none of the extra crap outside of speed and acceleration don't even matter in this game and they can't magically make DB's react to  elongated corner routes in this game running a variety of zone drops (there's 3 types of corner routes.)

now to you Max, if you can read defenses perfectly, there's no input topic to this  discussion, I've seen too many threads during the mid-way mark of how you stop this and this and this over a 3 month span on this site  people run bunch and singleback wing slot every game. I'm not saying everybody is a MCS Player and  I'm not gonna say there's a lot of dumb players 

BUT NOT EVERYONE IS BOO BOO DA FOOL PLAYING THIS GAME.

I still don't think you're understanding. The point is that having to resort to running the same two offensive formations and the same two coverage concepts to stop RPOs (for example) is not FUN. I 've started just quitting games when I'm up 2+ scores if my opponent is doing the same three things down the field every drive. It isn't FUN. This is the best the game engine has been in a long time! There is no uniqueness in the way that people play this game, and the shit that EA allows into it is a very big reason why. I'm not sure why you really feel the need to defend the behavior of a company who doesn't care about you or anyone who plays MUT, but we all do what we need to in order to feel accomplished, right?

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No need for this. Smh

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This board is being taken over by children i see.

Only way to get knock downs. Game is trash

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Muthead is mut gg. That site just dead

Lol

YallComplain2Much said:

And should defense AP be dropped? 
 

Thoughts

no i hate zone KOs though

i agree EA is scummy for limiting the best ability discounts to the LTDs you can basically buy, i don’t think the existence of KOs themselves is the issue, just an advancement of the game. My personal strategy for attacking KOs is empty formations with short air yards RAC catches . time it well and Defenders will whiff often. It’s not flashy but once they get out of cover 3/4 then you go for chunk plays

theoriginalkbgames33 said:

how about leave it as it is? 

idc if I am the minority of this situation but this game has been and will be programed off abilities, flats still shuffle to the sideline instead of jumping routes purples are not deep enough to cover corner concepts,  2 abilities on the O-line (SP + AD)  negate every single pass rusher or run stuffer, and to top it all off you need catching abilities (PA or LA) to functionally catch. 

I don't understand the mindset of people being unhappy because they can't  run stock verts, and yearning to scramble backwards throwing cross body throws with players like mahomes,bo, and Vick hoping your not losing.

Only reason people hate abilities is because the  spam verticals and they can't throw into triple coverage without consequences. KO's make you think about openings and clicking on to pull receivers away from defenders.

Tangoarmy said:

Only reason people hate abilities is because the  spam verticals and they can't throw into triple coverage without consequences. KO's make you think about openings and clicking on to pull receivers away from defenders.

fr man, it’s unrealistic to think deep throws will work 100% of the time