X factors on receivers

With Cushing with momentum shift you can kill xfactors on offense and defense

femur18 said:

What is a better x factor on WR. YAC em up or RAC em up and why?

Rac em up and double me both are guaranteed to beat press coverage, even against bottle necks. And that's not even mentioning the fact that rac em up gives pretty much guaranteed catches when u rac catch it. Unless ur aYAC demon who only throws checkdowns or bubble screens to your receivers or something i dont ever see a world where taking yac em up makes any sense over rac em up

LilJoftheLion said:

Rac em up and double me both are guaranteed to beat press coverage, even against bottle necks. And that's not even mentioning the fact that rac em up gives pretty much guaranteed catches when u rac catch it. Unless ur aYAC demon who only throws checkdowns or bubble screens to your receivers or something i dont ever see a world where taking yac em up makes any sense over rac em up

Max security also gets super win animations vs press

Hhtmarks said:

You can't prove it doesn't have any effect whatsoever.

I’m with crab on this one. You were implying it was useful in a situation where it doesn't do anything. Ice the kicker and persistence have absolutely no similarities whatsoever. 

I have persistence on walker and it allows me to get tackled behind the line of scrimmage twice instead of once so idk how you’re saying someone can’t prove it doesn’t have any effect whatsoever. lol there’s pretty obvious proof.

LilJoftheLion said:

Rac em up and double me both are guaranteed to beat press coverage, even against bottle necks. And that's not even mentioning the fact that rac em up gives pretty much guaranteed catches when u rac catch it. Unless ur aYAC demon who only throws checkdowns or bubble screens to your receivers or something i dont ever see a world where taking yac em up makes any sense over rac em up

YAC em up is almost like have freight train on your receiver. It’s a game changer. I think it’s better than rac em up.

droblunts313 said:

I’m with crab on this one. You were implying it was useful in a situation where it doesn't do anything. Ice the kicker and persistence have absolutely no similarities whatsoever. 

I have persistence on walker and it allows me to get tackled behind the line of scrimmage twice instead of once so idk how you’re saying someone can’t prove it doesn’t have any effect whatsoever. lol there’s pretty obvious proof.

Just because you use it yourself, doesn't mean we're not allowed to have a difference in perception.  I'm not implying anything. I've been around gaming since the 90s. I know theres hidden codings in gaming. I'm allowed to believe persistence can give a player ability despite the xfactor being visually off. I can be wrong sure. But I win consistently, so Its all good either way

Hhtmarks said:

Just because you use it yourself, doesn't mean we're not allowed to have a difference in perception.  I'm not implying anything. I've been around gaming since the 90s. I know theres hidden codings in gaming. I'm allowed to believe persistence can give a player ability despite the xfactor being visually off. I can be wrong sure. But I win consistently, so Its all good either way

I’m just curious what you think persistence does that’s similar to icing the kicker?

droblunts313 said:

I’m just curious what you think persistence does that’s similar to icing the kicker?

I was literally meaning to bring ice immunity back up. My bro doesn't use it, but he tends to shank OFTEN even when he swears it was solid. I've used it specifically since this it was first available and I haven't missed a kick all year. Instincts say there's an aspect of anti shank on top of the basic timeout piece.

How or what players are causing this AUTO ON momentum shift starts for players? I run only all Cowboys. But yes all I see when I play H2H now is this auto light up trash the minute game starts so I wonder, wth players do this. I dont see it on any Cowboys dudes & wouldnt run it anyway. Id rather lose 100 to nothing 10000 times then play like a cheeser glitch AI abusing fool who thinks they are good because they win that way.

Hhtmarks said:

I was literally meaning to bring ice immunity back up. My bro doesn't use it, but he tends to shank OFTEN even when he swears it was solid. I've used it specifically since this it was first available and I haven't missed a kick all year. Instincts say there's an aspect of anti shank on top of the basic timeout piece.

Lmao I know what ice the kicker is. Shanking kicks has nothing to do with ice the kicker it has to do with having to much power on your kick meter causing you to shank the kick.

I’m asking you what you think persistence and ice the kicker have in common. Why did you say they are similar? What do you think persistence does that correlates to ice the kicker?

droblunts313 said:

Lmao I know what ice the kicker is. Shanking kicks has nothing to do with ice the kicker it has to do with having to much power on your kick meter causing you to shank the kick.

I’m asking you what you think persistence and ice the kicker have in common. Why did you say they are similar? What do you think persistence does that correlates to ice the kicker?

Yeah that's where we slightly disagree. I've, myself, had pure power, meter shakes, and still made the kick. Meant to includes the meter shakes into the shank aspect. 

Ie persistently, Marshawn can still break a key tackle at a given time despite no freight train or even tank active

droblunts313 said:

YAC em up is almost like have freight train on your receiver. It’s a game changer. I think it’s better than rac em up.

That's exactly what it is, but it only works after the catch. Think grab and go compared to HJS. (Tho granted Frieght Train only works on run plays and not on receptions) Has only really specifc uses where as rac em up can be useful on literally every single play js having a guy that's guaranteed to fry whoever is dumb enough to press him. All I was saying is to fully maximize its use would be imo like short yard throws or sum. Its better than im giving it credit, yes, esp if u can throw it on like a slot guy or sum and break 20+ yard plays on 5 yard routes, but idk i js like rac em up more

Jbob420 said:

Max security also gets super win animations vs press

It does? I thought it was only good against KOs and didnt beat press

LilJoftheLion said:

That's exactly what it is, but it only works after the catch. Think grab and go compared to HJS. (Tho granted Frieght Train only works on run plays and not on receptions) Has only really specifc uses where as rac em up can be useful on literally every single play js having a guy that's guaranteed to fry whoever is dumb enough to press him. All I was saying is to fully maximize its use would be imo like short yard throws or sum. Its better than im giving it credit, yes, esp if u can throw it on like a slot guy or sum and break 20+ yard plays on 5 yard routes, but idk i js like rac em up more

Yea I think they’re both really good. Like you said it just depends on if people press. In the games I play I never have people press against me. If they do I have a few plays with un-pressable routes so they stop pressing immediately. I value yac em up over max security myself but you can’t really go wrong with either of them.