PLAYERS WHO FATIGUE (quickly, barely, never)

I'll start

OFTEN: Sean Taylor,Paul krause,Lawrence Taylor, Antoine winfield, OOP Hester, Will Anderson jr, OOP Carmichael, ED too TALL jones, ghost roquan, ghost van ginkel. troy polomalu, nick bosa, jj watt,myles garrett, brandon graham, dre greenlaw

MIDDLE: OOP Safety Bo Jackson

NEVER: OOP GRONK, ORAKPO, KOBIE TURNER, S4 RAY LEWIS, OOP PEPPERS, JALEN CARTER,CHRISTIAN BARMORE, AARON DONALD, DEXTER LAWRENCE, OOP David Bakhtiari, BUCKNER,SAPP,MONTEZ SWEAT

Everyone. It's random as hell since EA can't code one fucking bit.

Good day 

I just brought edd too tall who weighs 270 and after the first play he was yellow followed by dark blue two plays after then the entire game was a sub fest nightmare  plays later my entire line and linebacker and safeties were all fatigued. I just turned the game off. I had enough of this nonsense.

also good to note players who never seem to get tired

players I noticed that never get tired: OOP Gronk, the new s4 pass Ray Lewis, OOP Peppers, Orakpo seems to not fatigue much, ghost jalen carter, ghost turner

players who fatigue consistently: ghost LT, ghost Carmichael, ghost Hester, ghost winfield, ZC Woolen, ghost tillman, ghost anderson jr, ghost roquan smith, ghost van ginkel

OOP Bo Jackson is in the middle, doesn't fatigue as much as guys on ladder list, but also doesn't belong on never gets tired like the players on former list...

also the last couple games I played in champs before bed tonight, seemed like fatigue slowed down big time, wonder if there was an update ? maybe I was just seeing things, not sure

this was first time getting 15 wins in champs in a long time, bout to sell off all my ghosts that aren't BND...

Yeah I've noticed a couple times this happening is this new after the last update cause I don't remember this happening much before I just noticed when I was playing a solo battle troy was out for a couple plays and I'm like where the hell is troy whats going on.

Steelcurtain4life said:

Yeah I've noticed a couple times this happening is this new after the last update cause I don't remember this happening much before I just noticed when I was playing a solo battle troy was out for a couple plays and I'm like where the hell is troy whats going on.

Yes they snuck in a fatigue implemented patch but completely butchered it and it doesn't work as intended. Now half the defense will be subbed out consistently unless you  ap on recuperation.

I can hurry up on offense and run the ball 5 times in a row and my RB won’t be out of breath. I can user my 320 lb dt and he won’t get tired at all, yet if my edge guy has to rush the passer, he’s tired after one play and sometimes disappears! At least balance it out. they have no problem making a 94 speed qb or FB but yet edge rushers who rush for a living are tired? My thought is they did this because olinemen awareness is so poor, instead of fixing the game, they just break the edge rushers to fix it.

StoicTrader said:

also good to note players who never seem to get tired

players I noticed that never get tired: OOP Gronk, the new s4 pass Ray Lewis, OOP Peppers, Orakpo seems to not fatigue much, ghost jalen carter, ghost turner

players who fatigue consistently: ghost LT, ghost Carmichael, ghost Hester, ghost winfield, ZC Woolen, ghost tillman, ghost anderson jr, ghost roquan smith, ghost van ginkel

OOP Bo Jackson is in the middle, doesn't fatigue as much as guys on ladder list, but also doesn't belong on never gets tired like the players on former list...

also the last couple games I played in champs before bed tonight, seemed like fatigue slowed down big time, wonder if there was an update ? maybe I was just seeing things, not sure

this was first time getting 15 wins in champs in a long time, bout to sell off all my ghosts that aren't BND...

Very good post right here ^^

Should make a thread with three lists like one's in your post so the community can help expand it. Would be a nice tool to have while the fatigue issues persist.

StoicTrader said:

also good to note players who never seem to get tired

players I noticed that never get tired: OOP Gronk, the new s4 pass Ray Lewis, OOP Peppers, Orakpo seems to not fatigue much, ghost jalen carter, ghost turner

players who fatigue consistently: ghost LT, ghost Carmichael, ghost Hester, ghost winfield, ZC Woolen, ghost tillman, ghost anderson jr, ghost roquan smith, ghost van ginkel

OOP Bo Jackson is in the middle, doesn't fatigue as much as guys on ladder list, but also doesn't belong on never gets tired like the players on former list...

also the last couple games I played in champs before bed tonight, seemed like fatigue slowed down big time, wonder if there was an update ? maybe I was just seeing things, not sure

this was first time getting 15 wins in champs in a long time, bout to sell off all my ghosts that aren't BND...

Thanks for sharing your experiences.  Sadly, no Gronk for me, but he's THE best USER/blitzing SUBLB in the entire game.  Weight appears to matter more than anything else.

My workaround has been as follows:

• RE David Bakhtiari
• DT1 Aaron Donald Terminator
• DT2 Dexter Lawrence Harvest
• LE Jalen Carter (although if he ever gets subbed out during the game, for whatever reason i'm not able to put him back at LE from in-game substitution menus, not sure why.  I realize his natural position is DT, but nothing really makes sense with this game.  EA logic, i guess)
• and THE most important DB (who can play basically anywhere) would be Julius Peppers.  He can blitz from the Slot, or become a USER, or really whatever you want.  I have him at Slot2, which offers flexibility in both run and pass game, YMMV.

Using 380 pounds (LT Trent Brown) & 374 pounds (RT Dawand Jones), then subtract 90 -- whatever players you have that meet the minimum weight threshold will probably be fine, there's other/better players than what i have available, just sharing what has sort of worked for me.

EDIT:  I honestly think the better approach would be to detail players who do not fatigue quickly.  Because it's almost everyone under 290 pounds (on the left) and 284 pounds on the right end who seem to suffer from extreme fatigue.  YMMV, this is EA game logic, after all.  Oof.

peatrick said:

Thanks for sharing your experiences.  Sadly, no Gronk for me, but he's THE best USER/blitzing SUBLB in the entire game.  Weight appears to matter more than anything else.

My workaround has been as follows:

• RE David Bakhtiari
• DT1 Aaron Donald Terminator
• DT2 Dexter Lawrence Harvest
• LE Jalen Carter (although if he ever gets subbed out during the game, for whatever reason i'm not able to put him back at LE from in-game substitution menus, not sure why.  I realize his natural position is DT, but nothing really makes sense with this game.  EA logic, i guess)
• and THE most important DB (who can play basically anywhere) would be Julius Peppers.  He can blitz from the Slot, or become a USER, or really whatever you want.  I have him at Slot2, which offers flexibility in both run and pass game, YMMV.

Using 380 pounds (LT Trent Brown) & 374 pounds (RT Dawand Jones), then subtract 90 -- whatever players you have that meet the minimum weight threshold will probably be fine, there's other/better players than what i have available, just sharing what has sort of worked for me.

EDIT:  I honestly think the better approach would be to detail players who do not fatigue quickly.  Because it's almost everyone under 290 pounds (on the left) and 284 pounds on the right end who seem to suffer from extreme fatigue.  YMMV, this is EA game logic, after all.  Oof.

I'm setup mostly the same as you. I run Kyle Williams at DT1 for the 1AP Inside Stuff. And I run Peppers at FS which I've been reconsidering lately. This is good stuff.

peatrick said:

Thanks for sharing your experiences.  Sadly, no Gronk for me, but he's THE best USER/blitzing SUBLB in the entire game.  Weight appears to matter more than anything else.

My workaround has been as follows:

• RE David Bakhtiari
• DT1 Aaron Donald Terminator
• DT2 Dexter Lawrence Harvest
• LE Jalen Carter (although if he ever gets subbed out during the game, for whatever reason i'm not able to put him back at LE from in-game substitution menus, not sure why.  I realize his natural position is DT, but nothing really makes sense with this game.  EA logic, i guess)
• and THE most important DB (who can play basically anywhere) would be Julius Peppers.  He can blitz from the Slot, or become a USER, or really whatever you want.  I have him at Slot2, which offers flexibility in both run and pass game, YMMV.

Using 380 pounds (LT Trent Brown) & 374 pounds (RT Dawand Jones), then subtract 90 -- whatever players you have that meet the minimum weight threshold will probably be fine, there's other/better players than what i have available, just sharing what has sort of worked for me.

EDIT:  I honestly think the better approach would be to detail players who do not fatigue quickly.  Because it's almost everyone under 290 pounds (on the left) and 284 pounds on the right end who seem to suffer from extreme fatigue.  YMMV, this is EA game logic, after all.  Oof.

agreed - better to list players who don't fatigue easily

colbyzg said:

I'm setup mostly the same as you. I run Kyle Williams at DT1 for the 1AP Inside Stuff. And I run Peppers at FS which I've been reconsidering lately. This is good stuff.

I actually have/had Bakhtiari and Jalen Carter both with 1AP Inside Stuff, as they are/were my typical DTs.  Really hoping this isn't permanent, but it hasn't been terrible to have a pair of Inside Stuffs on my current edge rushers.  Julius Peppers might be THE most important DB in the entire game right now.  I moved Slay Jr. to outside corner so i could have big body in the Slot, in case i want to blitz from the edge.  Tariq Woolen in Slot1 keeps getting lit up, i have to be very careful he doesn't get caught up by a TE in the run game, otherwise his goose is COOKED and i inevitably spend the ~15 seconds in between play calls furiously flipping through the various Packages, hoping to slightly restore stamina.  In the past i've only had to do this stuff on offense, to help receivers or running backs recover somewhat more quickly.

peatrick said:

I actually have/had Bakhtiari and Jalen Carter both with 1AP Inside Stuff, as they are/were my typical DTs.  Really hoping this isn't permanent, but it hasn't been terrible to have a pair of Inside Stuffs on my current edge rushers.  Julius Peppers might be THE most important DB in the entire game right now.  I moved Slay Jr. to outside corner so i could have big body in the Slot, in case i want to blitz from the edge.  Tariq Woolen in Slot1 keeps getting lit up, i have to be very careful he doesn't get caught up by a TE in the run game, otherwise his goose is COOKED and i inevitably spend the ~15 seconds in between play calls furiously flipping through the various Packages, hoping to slightly restore stamina.  In the past i've only had to do this stuff on offense, to help receivers or running backs recover somewhat more quickly.

I've got Moss in the Slot. He does okay.

Edit: I also have him manned up almost exclusively, he super rarely rushes. That helps.

colbyzg said:

I've got Moss in the Slot. He does okay.

Edit: I also have him manned up almost exclusively, he super rarely rushes. That helps.

Randy is far too valuable to me as an outside corner.  So was Julius Peppers, but getting Darius Slay with DOZKO and PA for 3AP is a somewhat equivalent trade-off.  Even if Peppers is 10x better due to his towering height.  He was getting SO many picks on the outside, Slay has just been swatting the balls away, so i finally had to go back to add PA late last evening.