One thing that makes this game so unrealistic

spanky1407 said:

I don’t run any mid blitz at all idc if others do it’s just not for me. I prefer to send 4 and switch stick in zone. You don’t see the same tactics repeated in real football as much as in madden because in real football teams adjust and counter whatever is beating them, but in madden you are the coach and you need to counter your opponent., and most madden players just want to press a button and stop everything with no thought involved. Cooldowns do nothing but decrease skill gap. Imagine playing someone who can’t guard a specific play instead of your opponent having to make a change to stop said play the game just holds his hand and takes that play out of the equation. That would be like if a team kept running man with no up top help against tyreek hill and the dolphins kept putting him on a streak, and instead of the other team needing to change defenses the refs just said you can’t do that anymore doing the same thing isn’t football. Obviously a good player can switch it up but why punish someone for taking advantage of their opponent’s weaknesses. And before anyone says anything about certain plays “exploiting the game” there is nothing in this game that can’t be stopped with a few adjustments.

because in real football teams adjust and counter whatever is beating them

Not really. 

You seem to be really keen on the word "adjustments" even though you've yet to quantify what that actually means in context to real football. 

Those plays don't work because they are inefficient, for one. Calling a drag every play would exhaust your receivers. An effective drag route is essentially a horizontal 9 route, except much more taxing. You have to explode out of your break to have any chance of getting yards, and it's easy to stop in real life. You're also setting yourself up to getting blind side hit. 

On a good day, you're looking at about 3-4 yards. It's not something you march down the field with every series. Unless it's a pick play designed for you to take the drag upfield after the catch, it's just not a viable play-call.

More than half the people playing the game online are pounding Red Bulls and just wanting coins. They enjoy farming and grinding just to repeat the cycle. Having an authentic feeling game means nothing to them. Just the cheese win.

OOG said:

because in real football teams adjust and counter whatever is beating them

Not really. 

You seem to be really keen on the word "adjustments" even though you've yet to quantify what that actually means in context to real football. 

Those plays don't work because they are inefficient, for one. Calling a drag every play would exhaust your receivers. An effective drag route is essentially a horizontal 9 route, except much more taxing. You have to explode out of your break to have any chance of getting yards, and it's easy to stop in real life. You're also setting yourself up to getting blind side hit. 

On a good day, you're looking at about 3-4 yards. It's not something you march down the field with every series. Unless it's a pick play designed for you to take the drag upfield after the catch, it's just not a viable play-call.

I mean nfl defenses guard better than your average madden player. 

I just don’t think the game should adjust for the player. If I call four verticals against cover 2 8 plays in a row, it should play the same way each time every time until a player makes a change

Yall know that plenty of nfl and college teams play one shell with variations    

As for exploits tbey do that too, especially dline matchups.

ItsmeD said:

Good day everyone 

I really do not like that when you go online to play people they tend to sit the entire game on one defense. Ea has a game that tries to mimic the NFL and I might be wrong but I have never seen a game where the entire game the defense has one play all game. 

This one thing is in my opinion something that totally ruins the experience.  So unrealistic and should be addressed

Hey bro, when someone sits in the entire defense all game, for instance cover 3...you know exactly how to attack them.

you can run the same play as well, if they make no adjustments or prefer to use their defensive linemen, even better.

i've learned there are some games where  you need to pull out your go to plays, 

and some games where you need to run like 3 plays all game OR inexplicable enraging stuff will happen. ironically, unrealistic stuff

elmango30 said:

he literally gave an example. the dolphins called a cover 0 (maybe it was cover 1?) man blitz over and over because the ravens didn’t beat it.

There isn’t currently any unbeatable thing in the game, there’s a counter available

okay well yall are using literaly one game out of the thousands that have been played in nfl history. no staying in one defense all game is certainly not realistic. the the original post said it’s due to poor ai. i really don’t understand why people just can’t admit they see problems with the game. and yes it is complaining, but i don’t see a problem with that when wanting a better quality game. like when i have to beat man all game, which yes i can do rather easily, its more so just annoying and makes the experience more unrealistic which is not good for anyone.

SkinsPS5 said:

Hey bro, when someone sits in the entire defense all game, for instance cover 3...you know exactly how to attack them.

you can run the same play as well, if they make no adjustments or prefer to use their defensive linemen, even better.

i've learned there are some games where  you need to pull out your go to plays, 

and some games where you need to run like 3 plays all game OR inexplicable enraging stuff will happen. ironically, unrealistic stuff

you’re totally right, and i understand there’s ways to certainly counters these things but like you said, it just makes for an unrealistic football game which is not good

ItsmeD said:

Good day everyone 

I really do not like that when you go online to play people they tend to sit the entire game on one defense. Ea has a game that tries to mimic the NFL and I might be wrong but I have never seen a game where the entire game the defense has one play all game. 

This one thing is in my opinion something that totally ruins the experience.  So unrealistic and should be addressed

This has been an issue since I first played the game back in '97.

Last I heard, EA will definitely have this fixed in Madden NFL 27. 

They were too busy fixing all the other bugs in the 25 version of the game to get around to fixing it for 26.

Make sure you pre-order, so that you can be the first to try it out.

mrcolvillian said:

Yall know that plenty of nfl and college teams play one shell with variations    

As for exploits tbey do that too, especially dline matchups.

you’re absolutely right about that, i mean look at the jags this year they run a dominant 2 high shell. but like you said there’s a lot of variation, and that’s what the game lacks. most people i play sit in some variation of man all game, and that’s where it gets too unrealistic. no team runs man more than 50% of the time, most teams are less than 20% because corners just can’t run routes with receivers all game it’s just not realistic

I played a guy last nite that ran the same d# every play the entire game... It was very frustrating... In my last drive and only down by 6. He sacked me 3 str8 plays in a row. It was 4th down and 26... I had to go fir it and by some miracle I got a first down and at that moment understood how to beat his cheese... I proceeded to  drive right down the field and score winning the game .. point being made is. Even after the 4th down conversation my opponent didn't come out of this cheese d#... Ultimateky losing him the game..yeah it sucks. But a win is a win.

mrcolvillian said:

Yall know that plenty of nfl and college teams play one shell with variations    

As for exploits tbey do that too, especially dline matchups.

Good day 

 Yes the only difference is that they are actually confusing players with looks unlike in madden where people are taking a specific player and putting  in front of a certain player  over the offensive line, knowing that the game gets confused and  can’t decide who to block which then for some reason allows the edges to get  in. That’s an exploit 

I had a friend of mine tell me that the game was so bad with blitzes up the middle that they had to create some kind of code  that if you got in to fast the defender would get in a crouching stance and stop blitzing.  So my belief is these people have created a concept that allows blitzes  to come off the edge and once this gets out there and trickles down, everybody just finds these defenses and just sits in  it all game making it very unrealistic.

spanky1407 said:

If you want realism go play offline. You can’t expect other people to not do something that works because it’s not “realistic”. It’s on you to get somebody to change defenses by beating it. Watch the video where the dolphins sent the same blitz 35 times vs the ravens because it worked. Finding your opponent’s weakness and exploiting it until they change something is the most realistic part of this game.

I agree! If all you need is 1 defensive play, There's a saying that goes like this! If it's not broken, then don't fix it. I've been playing Madden Football since the very beginning, and been playing ultimate teams since 2010, and year after year the only thing that has grown consistently worse is the complaints from the people that play this game. I mean really! Pick a struggle! Make a choice Adapt to defense your playing against, or stop playing online. Because even the top 100 players all have the same thing in common! THEY'VE ALL LOST A GAME! in order to get to the top 100. Just sayin.

grondahlg said:

okay well yall are using literaly one game out of the thousands that have been played in nfl history. no staying in one defense all game is certainly not realistic. the the original post said it’s due to poor ai. i really don’t understand why people just can’t admit they see problems with the game. and yes it is complaining, but i don’t see a problem with that when wanting a better quality game. like when i have to beat man all game, which yes i can do rather easily, its more so just annoying and makes the experience more unrealistic which is not good for anyone.

again, in MUT where players quit fast, I simply don’t believe you that you beat it consistently and they don’t change defenses or quit

And sure, there’s coding issues with how certain plays work. but I don’t blame the player base for calling good but beatable plays. Calling unbeatable plays would be bad. but if someone is calling à beatable play, I don’t fault them for calling it over and over

idk if you played the game this year but it’s very hard to stop anyone. so yes i score consistently on man and give up touchdowns. lots of shootouts, as i would imagine your games are too besides the ones that quit. not a whole lot of low scoring games that go the full way…