Once again...a reminder to EA...ban or penalize constant hurry ups

peatrick said:

Oh my goodness, THANK YOU for sharing that gameplay link, wow.  Just wow.  I always assumed i've basically grown up with the technology and (mostly) seen it "all" heh, but clearly I've missed quite a lot.  This exceeded my expectations in nearly every way.  Red versus blue, with 11 on 11 football?!  There's more hints of realistic simulation in that TI-99 than in many aspects of current (next?) generation Madden, oof.  Are we still calling PS5 consoles "next-generation"?  That always irked me.

I barely count the Commodore 64 as a personal computer, as i was so small at the time -- definitely missed the boat with that glorious Texas Instruments machine... it had an actual color display?  Wowza.  The 286 Epson (12MHz, with 16MHz Turbo) and 1MB of RAM (640KB base + 384KB extended memory) that Santa brought for us in 1990 was where i managed to learn the basics, which propelled me into the IT realm.  Thanks for sharing the trip down memory lane, mister Miller.  Truly delightful.  The touchdown animation (and MIDI beeps) were outstanding.

So my father was always ahead of the curve on tech - he picked the better machines (Beta, Sega Master System, HD DVD) even when the broader population chose differently (VHS, Nintendo, BluRay). The TI-99 was an example of this. All of my friends had the 2600, and a couple years later, C-64s, but the TI-99 was unique in that it tended to get arcade titles that Atari didn’t (we had Donkey Kong earlier than 2600 users did, and not the fake Pac- Man). It also came with a tape drive (that we never figured out how to use) and a MS Basic cartridge for programming. I was 5 so that wasn’t for me.

peatrick said:

HA, my dear sainted mother just asked recently if i remembered my lovely time "gaming" on the Commodore 64, heh.  Those cassette tape drives (and 45+ minute load times) were truly something special.  Had to dig deep in the memory banks to try and figure out what the very first version of video game football was that i ever participated in, i believe it was this Super Challenge Football on Atari 2600.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a24882346/atari-super-challenge-football-is-still-a-fantastic-game/

Now, the beauty of the C-64 was PIRACY. People copied games easily and widely. I had friends who had 100+ games easily and maybe paid for one of them. The disc drives were super finicky. And if any dust got in em you were toast. 
The C-64 is also where I played my first Electronic Arts game: One on One: Dr J vs Larry Bird!  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bMR_eruYcyY

peatrick said:

Oh my goodness, THANK YOU for sharing that gameplay link, wow.  Just wow.  I always assumed i've basically grown up with the technology and (mostly) seen it "all" heh, but clearly I've missed quite a lot.  This exceeded my expectations in nearly every way.  Red versus blue, with 11 on 11 football?!  There's more hints of realistic simulation in that TI-99 than in many aspects of current (next?) generation Madden, oof.  Are we still calling PS5 consoles "next-generation"?  That always irked me.

I barely count the Commodore 64 as a personal computer, as i was so small at the time -- definitely missed the boat with that glorious Texas Instruments machine... it had an actual color display?  Wowza.  The 286 Epson (12MHz, with 16MHz Turbo) and 1MB of RAM (640KB base + 384KB extended memory) that Santa brought for us in 1990 was where i managed to learn the basics, which propelled me into the IT realm.  Thanks for sharing the trip down memory lane, mister Miller.  Truly delightful.  The touchdown animation (and MIDI beeps) were outstanding.

One other note: while I hadn’t looked at the game play for 40 years, I could have told you what each playbook had if you put a knife to my back. The “cheese” play of TI-99 Football was the Flare Pass. It was a throw to the flat that was almost a guaranteed 6+ yards. In the run-heavy NFL of the early 80s, this was very West Coast. Though I was a Packers fan (we sucked), and Lynn Dickey was decent, I pretended Dan Fouts was hitting Chuck Muncie over and over again.

my babies , be easy on daddy, plz. He ain’t who he once was.

Youre just bad and a headcase. Your post confirm it

RobStillRules1 said:

Youre just bad and a headcase. Your post confirm it

Who are you weakly trying to troll Lil broski

jimshredder said:

Who are you weakly trying to troll Lil broski

Just the facts ma'am

RobStillRules1 said:

Just the facts ma'am

He's 100% right. No huddle is garbage and needs to be nerfed. How can you say otherwise?

RobStillRules1 said:

Just the facts ma'am

What happened? Ice cream melted on your lap again mid spoonful?

jimshredder said:

Its incredibility annoying to play against

Its unrealistic

It never happens in real football

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The occasional times teams do run hurry up when their losing in the 4th quarter, they risk heavy fatigue, false starts, wrong formation etc

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I think it Madden allows hurry up every play next year with no drawbcks, Im done with MUT

Imma be honest, if it’s in the strategy of helping me win or have more fun then I’m not gonna stop doing it unless you stop me from doing it. Once I get my levels up then I chill off of that shi and run into other players goin the same route. try Blitzing early or holding down the flats usually helps tho

Yes it is damn annoying that is for sure but didn´t the Bills did that in the early 90´s with Jim Kelly at the helm regularly?

EazyV said:

Yes it is damn annoying that is for sure but didn´t the Bills did that in the early 90´s with Jim Kelly at the helm regularly?

Not. Every. Play.

The difficulty with this thread is that these real-life analogies keep getting referenced, but they aren’t good analogies because there’s a huge difference between hurry-up for parts of one or two drives, and the entire game up until running the clock becomes the game-winning approach.

As an added note, in the context of one real-life game, running a higher number of snaps isn’t a big deal. Over the course of a full season, a high number of snaps increases the risk of injury to players, and fatigues players that don’t get too nicked up to play the next game. If your team is playing on Sunday, and again on the following Thursday night, there’s no way that as a head coach you sign off on an offensive coordinator’s game plan to hurry-up through the first three quarters of either game. This is never a factor in any MUT mode.

MaddenIsTerrible said:

Anybody who doesn't understand that no huddle is complete trash is part of the problem. Nobody should be able to run the same play nonstop in no huddle without serious stamina problems. There is no punishment for it so kids keep doing it

Tell that to the 1990 Buffalo Bills

googanaba said:

Tell that to the 1990 Buffalo Bills

I just did a quick check on NFL.com, and here's what I found:

The 1990 Buffalo Bills ran 932 offensive plays from scrimmage during the regular season, fewer than all but six teams, and during the regular season they ran about 29:30 off the clock with time of possession in wins (as opposed to about 26:30 in losses)*. The stats suggest they weren't persistently quick-snapping the ball. They simply ran scripted and situational hurry-up.

This is simply not what happens in MUT.

There really is no reason anyone should be analogizing quick-snapping hurry-up in MUT with real-life football.