Need help to beat current meta

I’m struggling to win more than 3-4 games in HR and in champs it’s even worse. On a 10 loss streak after being 5-1. 

I just can’t beat the cover 4 drop. Plus all my opponents get through most of the time within 2-3 seconds. I try double team, try shift sides, TE Block and/ or block rb or block release. It’s near impossible to get open with only 2-3 options. 

Tried checking vids on yt but it’s outdated. It’s a slaughter. 

I’m doing ok in defense and just start all out blitzes because I can’t stop my opponents

I have a very good team with all the best GTs and tts

Just use some Vanguards and HB Adams, also use the JC Latham WR he's literally goated

If you really want to shred the cover 4 loop meta, I would recommend running the bunch TE formation out of Seattle or Tampa playbooks. The off tackle and TE whips plays dominate that defense. You can YouTube the scheme break down.

banana76890 said:

Just use some Vanguards and HB Adams, also use the JC Latham WR he's literally goated

This. If you want to sit in cover 4 drop. I'm gonna run stretch until you stop. Same for those man press spammers. You are going to have to make me stop whip routing and RPOing you to death.

qwandadon said:

This. If you want to sit in cover 4 drop. I'm gonna run stretch until you stop. Same for those man press spammers. You are going to have to make me stop whip routing and RPOing you to death.

Nothing works not even stretch for me. They shed through everything and do tfl

Uncommittedgamer said:

Nothing works not even stretch for me. They shed through everything and do tfl

Does your entire O-line have relevant blocking abilities?  At bare minimum you need:

• Secure Protector
• All Day
• Linchpin (just one for the entire Oline)
• Omniscient (just one for the entire Oline)
• Post Up -- at the moment i only have this on my Center and both Tackles

And apologies in advance if this is old news, but be absolutely certain you are not holding down the Sprint button (R2 / right trigger) until you have cleared your blockers and burst into the open field.  Using the sprint button will cause the blocking to shed almost immediately.  It's a very common mistake that a TON of players (myself include) have made.

Bonus points for Vanguard.  There are a TON of Theme Team Surge Tight Ends who get 0AP Vanguard, i'm running Ted Hendricks at WR1, have Cole Kmet as TE2 behind big Dawand Jones, then there's Lamar FB.  You don't have to go full cheese, but getting the run game going is typically the counter to these formations that continually drop 8 into coverage.

peatrick said:

Does your entire O-line have relevant blocking abilities?  At bare minimum you need:

• Secure Protector
• All Day
• Linchpin (just one for the entire Oline)
• Omniscient (just one for the entire Oline)
• Post Up -- at the moment i only have this on my Center and both Tackles

And apologies in advance if this is old news, but be absolutely certain you are not holding down the Sprint button (R2 / right trigger) until you have cleared your blockers and burst into the open field.  Using the sprint button will cause the blocking to shed almost immediately.  It's a very common mistake that a TON of players (myself include) have made.

Bonus points for Vanguard.  There are a TON of Theme Team Surge Tight Ends who get 0AP Vanguard, i'm running Ted Hendricks at WR1, have Cole Kmet as TE2 behind big Dawand Jones, then there's Lamar FB.  You don't have to go full cheese, but getting the run game going is typically the counter to these formations that continually drop 8 into coverage.

This!! Don't hit sprint until you pass that line of scrimmage.

That’s a real thing not to hit sprint early? I sprint from the jump every play and I dont notice a lot of instant sheds, averaging maybe 9 ypc with most backs. Maybe ill try it…

Suggestions for beating the Meta cover 4, run the ball if you can, Vanguard, Vanguard, Vanguard. The clowns all set up the YouTube pass rush every play and then whine when you run it down there face. 

Also, use the Texas (angle) route with your RB, on the side of the blitzing (Loop) LB. Most loop defenses leave the middle open every play if you clear it out with streaks by TE and/or slot WR, its an easy 7-10 yards, and an automatic first down every 3rd and medium. 

If all else fails, throw some jump balls to WR Scott with Mossed. It only works about 1/4 of the time, but it can save you when it hits.

peatrick said:

Does your entire O-line have relevant blocking abilities?  At bare minimum you need:

• Secure Protector
• All Day
• Linchpin (just one for the entire Oline)
• Omniscient (just one for the entire Oline)
• Post Up -- at the moment i only have this on my Center and both Tackles

And apologies in advance if this is old news, but be absolutely certain you are not holding down the Sprint button (R2 / right trigger) until you have cleared your blockers and burst into the open field.  Using the sprint button will cause the blocking to shed almost immediately.  It's a very common mistake that a TON of players (myself include) have made.

Bonus points for Vanguard.  There are a TON of Theme Team Surge Tight Ends who get 0AP Vanguard, i'm running Ted Hendricks at WR1, have Cole Kmet as TE2 behind big Dawand Jones, then there's Lamar FB.  You don't have to go full cheese, but getting the run game going is typically the counter to these formations that continually drop 8 into coverage.

Maybe I do spring early but I get no time regardless. They’re through and I have to run away 

Walter LT, Faneca LG, Mack center, long RG 2 points on him, Allen Rt. 

All have abilities, there’s an omniscient and linchpin in there. 

I have Hendricks Kmet and goedert tts at TE.

Uncommittedgamer said:

Maybe I do spring early but I get no time regardless. They’re through and I have to run away 

Walter LT, Faneca LG, Mack center, long RG 2 points on him, Allen Rt. 

All have abilities, there’s an omniscient and linchpin in there. 

I have Hendricks Kmet and goedert tts at TE.

You've got it all set up -- maybe move Faneca to LT and drop a big Quenton Nelson (97 OVR Combine) card into his natural position at LG, assuming you have an extra 2AP to spare for four out of five Vanguards across the O-line, that's how i'm approaching things currently.

Beyond that, MAKE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN you are not sprinting, that's going to be a huge issue.  If they're stopping the run, via something liek Pinch Buck 0 or heavy blitzing formation, try to run it up the gut, some type of HB Dive or whatever you prefer.  Your line with those abilities should be opening up some huge gaps for you to sneak through.

That sprint button is absolutely key.  It's not going to guarantee success on each and every single down, but you start throwing a bunch of HB Stretches and Wide Zone type runs, with the threat of being able to run the ball in either direction, you should be able to avoid and gain some positive yards even against scenarios where the opponent is run committing.  Find some gaps in the middle if you are struggling to get to the sideline.

Is it safe to assume you have Spice Adams (HB) or Faalele, or one of the big bois who can spin to win?

peatrick said:

You've got it all set up -- maybe move Faneca to LT and drop a big Quenton Nelson (97 OVR Combine) card into his natural position at LG, assuming you have an extra 2AP to spare for four out of five Vanguards across the O-line, that's how i'm approaching things currently.

Beyond that, MAKE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN you are not sprinting, that's going to be a huge issue.  If they're stopping the run, via something liek Pinch Buck 0 or heavy blitzing formation, try to run it up the gut, some type of HB Dive or whatever you prefer.  Your line with those abilities should be opening up some huge gaps for you to sneak through.

That sprint button is absolutely key.  It's not going to guarantee success on each and every single down, but you start throwing a bunch of HB Stretches and Wide Zone type runs, with the threat of being able to run the ball in either direction, you should be able to avoid and gain some positive yards even against scenarios where the opponent is run committing.  Find some gaps in the middle if you are struggling to get to the sideline.

Is it safe to assume you have Spice Adams (HB) or Faalele, or one of the big bois who can spin to win?

I have Adam’s and will buy faalele as soon as the price on Chris Jones settles. 

I’m trying not to run and so far so good. But

My opponents weren’t the best. Good opponents can create pressure with 3 or 4 defenders

Uncommittedgamer said:

I have Adam’s and will buy faalele as soon as the price on Chris Jones settles. 

I’m trying not to run and so far so good. But

My opponents weren’t the best. Good opponents can create pressure with 3 or 4 defenders

Call lots of Play Action, for the improved blocking logic.  Should at least help to counter many of the popular loop blitzes.  However, if someone is sending three or four out of that Nickel 3-3 formation, it's VERY difficult to block.  I typically just plan on getting the ball out quickly, which means using a QB with one of the better (faster) release styles, so Baker or Josh Allen type.

I barely finished week 2, took me until late last evening to finalize a flawless 6-0 run, oof.  NTL isn't even particularly good.  Feel compelled to run these for the mostly worthless TT Surge boosts.

peatrick said:

Call lots of Play Action, for the improved blocking logic.  Should at least help to counter many of the popular loop blitzes.  However, if someone is sending three or four out of that Nickel 3-3 formation, it's VERY difficult to block.  I typically just plan on getting the ball out quickly, which means using a QB with one of the better (faster) release styles, so Baker or Josh Allen type.

I barely finished week 2, took me until late last evening to finalize a flawless 6-0 run, oof.  NTL isn't even particularly good.  Feel compelled to run these for the mostly worthless TT Surge boosts.

Again thank you. I’m not hitting 6-0

But I’m starting to win and get plays against tougher opponents. More pocket security and 3 vanguard on oline (got GT Nelson on center now) it improved a lot the o line. Went back to the lions free RT he’s better than Allen and only missing a vanguard LT.

Uncommittedgamer said:

Again thank you. I’m not hitting 6-0

But I’m starting to win and get plays against tougher opponents. More pocket security and 3 vanguard on oline (got GT Nelson on center now) it improved a lot the o line. Went back to the lions free RT he’s better than Allen and only missing a vanguard LT.

I ended up moving Alan Faneca over to LT, big Q at LG and the UL 1AP Vanguard center who should be dirt cheap to build, especially today. Highly recommend this setup. 

Then Ted at WR1, with bunches of other 0AP Vanguard TEs to choose from, I'm using Dawand Jones & Cole Kmet.

Run game has really come alive. I struggled last week (2), finally finished my obit 6-0 flawless the final evening. This time I went 6-0 on my very first try. Second attempt I was 5-0, dude rage quit which then somehow caused me to immediately disconnect from the next game, resulting in 5-1 NOT flawless. Uggh.

Keep at it, you got this. I'm confident you'll get to 4 or maybe 5 this weekend, keep building on your success. Which side of the ball is more comfortable for you, offense or defense... better yet, are you winning more games putting up points, or getting stops?