Mid zone KO vs menace on LBs

For LBs in cover 4 zone, what is a better ability. Midzone ko or menace? Thanks

Curious to know thoughts on this also as I cannot figure out exactly how menace activates. Badass sounding name for an ability though

Mzko is reactions and kos when in zone coverage in the flats and middle the way the image depicts

Menace is all kos with no reaction and deflator as long as you are tackling at the point of catch.   Probably a small window where it activates but in theory it is a solid ability.   

Give up reaction boosts in exchange for all kos and deflator if you choose menace over mzko

Moderator Sevein131 said:

Mzko is reactions and kos when in zone coverage in the flats and middle the way the image depicts

Menace is all kos with no reaction and deflator as long as you are tackling at the point of catch.   Probably a small window where it activates but in theory it is a solid ability.   

Give up reaction boosts in exchange for all kos and deflator if you choose menace over mzko

Wow. Thanks for the reply. I'm a player who doesn't switch stick and relies on the computer for defense in zones.  Sounds like Menace won't be good for me? What LB abilities would you recommend for a player like me? Would lurk artist be any good?

Ja119911 said:

Wow. Thanks for the reply. I'm a player who doesn't switch stick and relies on the computer for defense in zones.  Sounds like Menace won't be good for me? What LB abilities would you recommend for a player like me? Would lurk artist be any good?

Use kos, that guy is just completely wrong

https://abilities.clutchtrait.com/abilities/compare?ids=menace,mid-zone-ko,flat-zone-ko,deep-zone-ko,deflator

Ja119911 said:

Wow. Thanks for the reply. I'm a player who doesn't switch stick and relies on the computer for defense in zones.  Sounds like Menace won't be good for me? What LB abilities would you recommend for a player like me? Would lurk artist be any good?

If you run a lot of zone and let your AI handle their assignment, mzko is probably best on your lbs in the middle

Ja119911 said:

Wow. Thanks for the reply. I'm a player who doesn't switch stick and relies on the computer for defense in zones.  Sounds like Menace won't be good for me? What LB abilities would you recommend for a player like me? Would lurk artist be any good?

Lurk artist is good on lbs, it gets them crazy animations when it activates.   

I would recommend lurk artist and mzko on any lbs you have in the middle covering zones.

Thanks guys I appreciate it. So KOs for sure. Is Lurk artist good for CPU defenders or is that for usering?   Is it a good idea to combine lurk artist with a KO or is that a waste?

Ja119911 said:

Thanks guys I appreciate it. So KOs for sure. Is Lurk artist good for CPU defenders or is that for usering?   Is it a good idea to combine lurk artist with a KO or is that a waste?

the stack makes it even better. they do different things. 

MZKO: reaction time 0-20 yards from the line of scrimmage inside the numbers, plus a sideline strip from 10-20 yards outside the numbers

Lurk artist: the ability to make spectacular jumping/catching animations, so the ability to actually come down with it

with just MZKO, your player may just bat it down or make the knockout. still could pick it! But with Lurk artist on top of it they’ll attempt the INT and catch it more frequently. same goes for MDZKO and pick artist on a DB