Gunslinger debate…

its pretty clear what type of players are voting for what. you don't need gunslinger at all for any offline/non-semi competitive play, but there are throws you will never make on a half decent player w/o gunslinger that you can with slinger.

Didnt use it all year, turned it on and immediately started missing throws I was making regularly, turned it off and all is back to normal.

qwandadon said:

And until you realize that your problem is the user, you'll stop crying about it. Get better or recognize your hand eye coordination is not that good.  I'm 40 and can snipe on cod successfully, hit 60-80% green shots on 2k. And dot my receivers on Madden very well.  

Gunslinger has been a necessity for years.  Stop letting Youtubers that don't play the damn game regularly tell you any different. Most Youtubers  today hop on this game to spend points on packs and sell you their latest gambling or coin buying sponsor.  They dont play madden anymore haha.

I don't watch any youtubers at all. I win more games without GS than with GS. You're not a tough guy

qwandadon said:

Everyone should be running Gunslinger and Gift wrapped. Sheds are too OP on this game.  Every uses a looping blitz or some type of mug blitz.  The DBs close out on the routes way too quickly so you need a hot pass. 

Gift wrapped is needed because the game is ass when it comes to catching the ball offense and defense. Too many bobbles and dropped balls on 3rd and 4th down conversion attempts. 

Every other ability is just preference. 

Stop with this RG3, Josh Allen argument that their release is too quick. It's BS. Ask anyone that plays 2k. You want the fastest release possible so the defense doesn't get a chance to contest the pass or shot.  No one says give me the slowest release possible.  Stop making excuses and get the timing down. They have options to change the timing in the menus.

bruh what hahaha. It’s literally not an excuse, the whole point of gun slinger is it speeds up the release. when you already have the fastest release, gunslinger makes it even quicker which is the issue on short ins/outs and corners. the ball sails pass the open receiver and if you wait a second longer to throw, its picked off when the op is blitzing 

i am saying you dont actually need it when your player has a quick release already and i think its better gameplay without it

ive won two of the super bowl events now without it and have gone 16 wins in champs the last 3 weeks straight. you can still be a great online player without this ability 1000%

MaddenIsTerrible said:

I don't watch any youtubers at all. I win more games without GS than with GS. You're not a tough guy

i agree man. its fine if he relies on it, a lot of people do and that’s the whole point of this thread, i wanted to see if i was a minority or not 

however, him then targeting those who don’t use it and say they’re bad, that’s where hes incorrect, seen a lot of streamers and youtubers not want to use it like dubby for example who’s one of the best out there

RyyoLurkedEm said:

i agree man. its fine if he relies on it, a lot of people do and that’s the whole point of this thread, i wanted to see if i was a minority or not 

however, him then targeting those who don’t use it and say they’re bad, that’s where hes incorrect, seen a lot of streamers and youtubers not want to use it like dubby for example who’s one of the best out there

It's typical teenage shit man, don't even pay attention to it. He won a few games and now he thinks he's an MCS player.

heheheheexd said:

its pretty clear what type of players are voting for what. you don't need gunslinger at all for any offline/non-semi competitive play, but there are throws you will never make on a half decent player w/o gunslinger that you can with slinger.

nah a lot of online players like myself don’t use it either. and that is true, there are some throws i now can’t make, but i’ll make different reads based on this

i would personally  rather not be able to make a few throws in my playbook than consistently sail open corners and in/out routes

MaddenIsTerrible said:

It's typical teenage shit man, don't even pay attention to it. He won a few games and now he thinks he's an MCS player.

yo. i just don’t want this thread to get locked bc it’s causing a good debate and getting some nice replies

RyyoLurkedEm said:

yo. i just don’t want this thread to get locked bc it’s causing a good debate and getting some nice replies

Well it won't be because of me, i'm out

MaddenIsTerrible said:

I don't watch any youtubers at all. I win more games without GS than with GS. You're not a tough guy

Who said anything about being tough? Lol. Some of you fragile mofos wouldn't know if you were being pressed if I had a iron on your clothes. Relax bro.

RyyoLurkedEm said:

i agree man. its fine if he relies on it, a lot of people do and that’s the whole point of this thread, i wanted to see if i was a minority or not 

however, him then targeting those who don’t use it and say they’re bad, that’s where hes incorrect, seen a lot of streamers and youtubers not want to use it like dubby for example who’s one of the best out there

Your shower misses you. Your sweat POV is not the typical experience of us people that have jobs, lives, families, social experiences outside of madden haha. You " I went 16-0 in champs, 40-0 in H2H ranked in the first weekend, and finished gauntlet before it dropped. You need to be competing in the MCS and not preaching to us mere mortals that play this shit game for fun.

qwandadon said:

Your shower misses you. Your sweat POV is not the typical experience of us people that have jobs, lives, families, social experiences outside of madden haha. You " I went 16-0 in champs, 40-0 in H2H ranked in the first weekend, and finished gauntlet before it dropped. You need to be competing in the MCS and not preaching to us mere mortals that play this shit game for fun.

i work a 8:30-5:30pm as an engineer and live with my partner lol, I also havent gone 40-0 in ranked I'm not that good lol. But I can easily get my 16 wins in champs by playing a game or two on the odd nights and then play abit on Sunday morning while my partners working. I am also not 40, so you have to remember I dont have kids to look out for...

RyyoLurkedEm said:

Are you running gunslinger? 

Ever since ZC i’ve decided to not run it… too many over throws on route breaks which is incredibly painful in a meta where a lot of player send blitzes every single snap…

Used it on Allen and Lawrence and I’ve had enough, rather run quick draw for 1AP which releases the ball quicker if there’s pressure to avoid a sack. This, master tac and gift wrapped seems to be my personal stack preference at the moment

Facts my Baker was making my receivers look like shit. Overthrows half the time including basically every high pass with gunslinger. Took it off and he is so much better but his overthrow on high passes is still so annoying.

I haven’t used it in awhile I noticed the overthrows as well and for some reason I always overthrew out routes especially they would almost always go out of bounds too far for the reciever to catch