hackthacode said:I'm on PS5 and I'm also top 10 ranked. Has never happened to me ever idk why
Really man, never? You score a t.d. and on opponents following drive the second you pic it off " attention the connection to your opponent has been lost" it just happened twice in a row to me... I'm no top 100 player or even close to for that matter but it happens all the time
swatthatdot said:Its gotta be your all's own connection. I've played over 500 games and have had one person who I think knew how to to a desync. I win a lot too so i would see it more often if there was people out here getting losses erased. I'm on ps5 too, just straight up conspiracy theory nonsense to explain away lack of skills...
Always happens immediately after I lock up the game or some clutch play on my part. The point when a normal person would just quit. I would agree but it never happens when im loosing or even in close game that could go either way
NorCalsFinest530 said:Really man, never? You score a t.d. and on opponents following drive the second you pic it off " attention the connection to your opponent has been lost" it just happened twice in a row to me... I'm no top 100 player or even close to for that matter but it happens all the time
I mean i'll have people pull the plug on me of course but it never counts as a loss for me...
Changez84 said:And this is the reason I hate playing events and h2h. I’ve been playing madden since 1989 and I run the same scene I’ve always ran. It works and then it doesn’t. Just have to adjust throughout the game. It’s football and that’s the way it should be played. You’re not playing for money. It’s for fun and to pass time in this crazy world we live in. It’s just one of those things you have to deal with when playing online. It is what it is.
We gotta remember it's a game and like all battles your goal is to address your opponents scheme and counter it in the most effective or efficient way possible. Usually involving some pivoting and reposite. Key is it's a game and we gotta have fun. Amongst all the emotions conjured joy should be the root.
hackthacode said:I mean i'll have people pull the plug on me of course but it never counts as a loss for me...
OK lol I was gonna say da fuk? But ya same here just stupid to quit in such a manner trying to cheat out a win was the point. Even tho it's nay works out for them
Krashdummy610 said:
- How about this crap. And im frozen
Jonyv said:In the words of the great Ben Kenobi “ you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy” than mut events and ranked.
You ain't lyin. I would say 99% of the Madden community.
swatthatdot said:i've beaten plenty of top 100 guys without throwing a single pass. won my last three snow events with tokens without throwing more than 5 passes combined. My cheese is aged well my son...
Cringe, get a life.
phatalerror said:Yeah, I mean, the "solutions" leave you a man down. It's not a solution. It's deliberately cheating.
This shouldn't be up for debate. When you're using cheat plays to overcome random chance and you're diving into the Pandora's Box of evil cheating crap on offense and defense that wouldn't work in the leagues and only works on this digital mess of a football game, it's cheating. I don't know why he keeps coming back for this, because I keep spelling it out in plain English.
And then the retort is, "Well, if you don't like it, find something else to play." How about, Don't ruin it for the rest of us by cheating.
sorry, what do you think happens in irl football when 3 people mug 2 gaps? Do you think the center uses his Football IQ TM to know who’s going to come in and block it without a plan?
elmango30 said:sorry, what do you think happens in irl football when 3 people mug 2 gaps? Do you think the center uses his Football IQ TM to know who’s going to come in and block it without a plan?
He has a plan, and he anticipates accordingly. But he doesn’t go into a seizure at the snap and do nothing if he guessed wrong. He adjusts. So do the guards on either side. Because human intelligence works way better than Madden’s coding.
If we were talking all three defenders rushing, that’s a different thing altogether. If the defense is sending seven, I’m not complaining about how this turns out if you don’t chip with a tight end and leave a running back in to block. That’s not usually what happens. In fact, it almost never happens.
phatalerror said:He has a plan, and he anticipates accordingly. But he doesn’t go into a seizure at the snap and do nothing if he guessed wrong. He adjusts. So do the guards on either side. Because human intelligence works way better than Madden’s coding.
If we were talking all three defenders rushing, that’s a different thing altogether. If the defense is sending seven, I’m not complaining about how this turns out if you don’t chip with a tight end and leave a running back in to block. That’s not usually what happens. In fact, it almost never happens.
my point, although I made it too snarkily and I’m sorry about that, is that I feel you’re too quick to jump to cheating without thinking about the fact that bluffing à blitz is a thing irl too, for example
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elmango30 said:my point, although I made it too snarkily and I’m sorry about that, is that I feel you’re too quick to jump to cheating without thinking about the fact that bluffing à blitz is a thing irl too, for example
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I'm absolutely OK with blitz-bluffing too; in principle this is what we've been talking about all along. The problem is that the CPU AI doesn't handle the bluff well at all. You have to micromanage the process, and even then, if you ID the Mike or untarget a defender incorrectly, even in cases where you maintain a 6-4 advantage when it comes to blockers-vs.-pass-rushers, your blockers will consistently let you down.
Real football isn't like that, because in real life, players aren't so "programmed" to be locked into a specific defender (or to ignore a specific defender) as a mechanism of the game to simulate the effectiveness of blocking on the play.
If it's an unaccounted edge-rusher that gets me because I anticipated that he would drop into coverage, I have to own that. If a blocker fails me by being unoccupied after the snap, it's usually a center or guard. And it doesn't happen just once. It happens play after play.
Specific to the present meta, the answer to all of this is normally to just run it up the gut. That's not working well with all of the Inside Stuff and Avalanche abilities. So when you can't counter a superficially-football scenario (that doesn't occur on a play-after-play in the NFL because you'll get roasted outside the numbers in the league) using football logic, it's not a positive experience.
phatalerror said:I'm absolutely OK with blitz-bluffing too; in principle this is what we've been talking about all along. The problem is that the CPU AI doesn't handle the bluff well at all. You have to micromanage the process, and even then, if you ID the Mike or untarget a defender incorrectly, even in cases where you maintain a 6-4 advantage when it comes to blockers-vs.-pass-rushers, your blockers will consistently let you down.
Real football isn't like that, because in real life, players aren't so "programmed" to be locked into a specific defender (or to ignore a specific defender) as a mechanism of the game to simulate the effectiveness of blocking on the play.
If it's an unaccounted edge-rusher that gets me because I anticipated that he would drop into coverage, I have to own that. If a blocker fails me by being unoccupied after the snap, it's usually a center or guard. And it doesn't happen just once. It happens play after play.
Specific to the present meta, the answer to all of this is normally to just run it up the gut. That's not working well with all of the Inside Stuff and Avalanche abilities. So when you can't counter a superficially-football scenario (that doesn't occur on a play-after-play in the NFL because you'll get roasted outside the numbers in the league) using football logic, it's not a positive experience.
A big part of the lack of realism in MUT is there are teams with 25+ all pro level players lol. That allows for a considerable amount of man coverage, shed based run defense. In regs I think mid blitz is so good because the quarterback (the user) is worse at decision making than an nfl quarterback
elmango30 said:A big part of the lack of realism in MUT is there are teams with 25+ all pro level players lol. That allows for a considerable amount of man coverage, shed based run defense. In regs I think mid blitz is so good because the quarterback (the user) is worse at decision making than an nfl quarterback
Unfortunately, it takes one super-win on an isolated primary read press and one super-win among the pass-rushers to win a play on defense given the current speeds of players. With all of the knockout abilities, 50/50 jump balls are out of the question. All of the typical NFL counters to Zero-Blitzes are off the table due to feasibility. The only way to win is to cheat back.