they shojld just have a mode where you can use three formations, a run heavy, pass heavy and a hybrid formation, audible routes from there keep it simple stupid
swatthatdot said:I switched it up. Got a new playbook and was still crushing people. Never "cheated" once the past two days. Still have multiple people hopping on the mic to say they were cheated. It all comes down to people sucking and wanting to find excuses for why they suck instead of taking the time to get better.
Everything is cheese with you people if your losing.
"Cheese":
Crossing routes
Route combos that are designed to take advantage of their coverage.
Any run play that breaks big against their 3 man front.
High change of direction stat
Avalanche x factor
Taking your user in an open gap to stop their run
Motion
Man beating routes
Having marshal faulk apparently. I was told that in 2 days I wouldn't be able to use him because EA was nerfing him and k9 lol
Switch sticking
Having better cards apparently
Spending money on the game
Rpo plays if they dont know how to stop it
Table routes.
Drags
Any blitz that comes in
Double or nothings
People need to get a life...
I dont think anything in your list is cheese. The only cheese I really ever run into is people glitching their linebackers inside their defensive lineman's bodies and somehow one of them will come through untouched. It doesn't happen 100% of the time but it's hard to judge it because it's impossible to know when it is going to work for them or not.
samphy90 said:lol of course you need to click more buttons to adjust that’s the whole point. Nobody wants a simple game where you pick one defense against a specific play and you’re good to go. It’s almost robotic if that’s the case. Very rarely you call a play stock. This game is like a chess match with many different variables. Same thing in real life football teams make adjustments they don’t just call cover 4 and call it a day 😂
That’s not what im saying and you know it. Yes I can change a guys coverage and change my zone drops ex. That is part of the game. But if a certain play is being abused and a STOCK coverage SHOULD STOP it or a SIGNLE adjustment should shut it down but the games logic won’t allow that real life knowledge to work. Hence the chess match your talking about that’s an issue it then becomes hitting 20 buttons as fast as you can vs a stock play that takes zero skill to run.
People know how to stop it they know what should but the game will force a defender to be the read key and never play a pass on an RPO for example. If I change my coaching adjustments to only focus on the pass on the RPO shouldn’t the pass not beat me? Only the run part? Yet a simple slant can go for 80 yards because the defender watched him catch it.
That’s the issue HB direct snap for example I should be able to call a heavy defensive front and pick run right or left depending on the side the HB is on and it should be shut down. I won that chess match in real life I called the defense that stops it and read the play so I should then not be beat by that they should need to then pass or it’s a loss of yards. That’s where bad players get away from not being able to make reads and it be an actual chess match.
It becomes learning the broken logic of the game and figuring out why plays you can actually make an adjustment on a player and it will work not the game over ride it from bad coding.
makes people that have real life stuff going on have a bad experience even though they could be NFL level coach’s and know exactly what to do the game won’t let you
Shoot the gap blitz slot corner those are some ways to help beat hb direct. Add secure protectors to your o line don’t hold the ball too long are some ways to protect your qb. See man it’s not that hard the difference is you’re too busy worried about adding play lock when you’re probably not making the right adjustments lol. It’s the difference between an avg player and a good player.
samphy90 said:Shoot the gap blitz slot corner those are some ways to help beat hb direct. Add secure protectors to your o line don’t hold the ball too long are some ways to protect your qb. See man it’s not that hard the difference is you’re too busy worried about adding play lock when you’re probably not making the right adjustments lol. It’s the difference between an avg player and a good player.
Youre wasting your time man. Any nickel over play with the linebackers shifted to that side stops it if you have even a decent user.
I have proven that it all comes down to them losing and making excuses. Since we had this big discussion about my "cheating" i switched it up and ran a "legit" scheme. People still get on the mic and say I'm cheating. if you see my list of items i posted above, it it beats them its "cheese"...
I mean i kinda get it, i was there once when i sucked too, but i put the time in to get better, not bitch about it.
swatthatdot said:Youre wasting your time man. Any nickel over play with the linebackers shifted to that side stops it if you have even a decent user.
I have proven that it all comes down to them losing and making excuses. Since we had this big discussion about my "cheating" i switched it up and ran a "legit" scheme. People still get on the mic and say I'm cheating. if you see my list of items i posted above, it it beats them its "cheese"...
I mean i kinda get it, i was there once when i sucked too, but i put the time in to get better, not bitch about it.
Wym bro? Anyone with a brain knows running anything that works or repeatedly doing something someone can’t stop, and not just calling random stock plays on offense and defense for the sake of “realism” is a glitching cheater!
swatthatdot said:Was it me you played? I run HB direct and dime 3-2 hover...
Winning is fun and being able to compete with the best competition is great. I'm not here to play sim football and dream about the days when i was backup jv quarterback.
Everything you encountered is stoppable. it's not like i'm 1000 and 0 and just won the madden bowl. Get good at stopping it and you'll be able to compete, if you don't want to do that then quit bitching because this game isn't for you.
Bumm your fucking part of the problem saying you don’t want to play sim football in a sim football game is ridiculous. Competing with the best or mfs who all just run same play takes out the creativity and individuality out of it. Are you a human or bot . I digress im beating a dead horse people not thinking for themselves is clearly why country is in the state it’s in.
pactheshiz said:Bumm your fucking part of the problem saying you don’t want to play sim football in a sim football game is ridiculous. Competing with the best or mfs who all just run same play takes out the creativity and individuality out of it. Are you a human or bot . I digress im beating a dead horse people not thinking for themselves is clearly why country is in the state it’s in.
Its not a sim football game and isnt marketed towards people like you pal. Have you ever watched the madden bowl and how ea promotes things like the speed boost. Hell ea sold emblems in that one madden pass thing that is a mouse bench pressing cheese wheels. I paid 5 bucks for it lol. You're getting left behind in this world of madden.
Yes I love playing cheese, I love the challenge in trying to stop it.
spanky1407 said:Wym bro? Anyone with a brain knows running anything that works or repeatedly doing something someone can’t stop, and not just calling random stock plays on offense and defense for the sake of “realism” is a glitching cheater!
They really need a mode for these people where they just hit x and let the computer do everything. It would make them so happy lol
swatthatdot said:Youre wasting your time man. Any nickel over play with the linebackers shifted to that side stops it if you have even a decent user.
I have proven that it all comes down to them losing and making excuses. Since we had this big discussion about my "cheating" i switched it up and ran a "legit" scheme. People still get on the mic and say I'm cheating. if you see my list of items i posted above, it it beats them its "cheese"...
I mean i kinda get it, i was there once when i sucked too, but i put the time in to get better, not bitch about it.
@swatthatdot 100 percent agree with this take
swatthatdot said:They really need a mode for these people where they just hit x and let the computer do everything. It would make them so happy lol
The pot calling the kettle black on this one. In your first post on this thread, you said you only run HB direct snap and dime 3-2 hover....the exact equivalent of what you are complaining about here. I don't expect someone who copies YT videos to be a deep thinker, but man you are an amazing example of "smooth-brain syndrome."
No one here just wants to push one button over and over for the win....well no one except the "cheesers" such as yourself. What we are all asking for is to create a game that doesn't incentivize the morons of the world to copy a YT video and run the same scheme all game, every game. I get that this concept is a little deeper than your feeble brain can comprehend, but know that you are one of the few in this conversation looking for "the easiest wins possible."
Dirk26 said:The pot calling the kettle black on this one. In your first post on this thread, you said you only run HB direct snap and dime 3-2 hover....the exact equivalent of what you are complaining about here. I don't expect someone who copies YT videos to be a deep thinker, but man you are an amazing example of "smooth-brain syndrome."
No one here just wants to push one button over and over for the win....well no one except the "cheesers" such as yourself. What we are all asking for is to create a game that doesn't incentivize the morons of the world to copy a YT video and run the same scheme all game, every game. I get that this concept is a little deeper than your feeble brain can comprehend, but know that you are one of the few in this conversation looking for "the easiest wins possible."
Awe you're wittle feeling must be so hurt...
You forgot about my stick work, speed boosting and switchsticking on d. So no i dont just hit x, gonna have to get to come up with a better "diss".
And no i dont want easy wins. This event has been horrible because I get matched up with people at your skill level the first 4 games. Its agonizing and such a waste of time.
swatthatdot said:Awe you're wittle feeling must be so hurt...
You forgot about my stick work, speed boosting and switchsticking on d. So no i dont just hit x, gonna have to get to come up with a better "diss".
And no i dont want easy wins. This event has been horrible because I get matched up with people at your skill level the first 4 games. Its agonizing and such a waste of time.
The skill gap is real. I’m telling you bro.
I don’t claim to be highly skilled or anything. Thing is with me I blame myself first before blaming the game, always. Whenever I run into a cheese I don’t cry, instead I think how do I stop this. And what do you know there’s always a way because if that cheese was unstoppable he’d be in the mcs finals winning thousands.
samphy90 said:The skill gap is real. I’m telling you bro.
I don’t claim to be highly skilled or anything. Thing is with me I blame myself first before blaming the game, always. Whenever I run into a cheese I don’t cry, instead I think how do I stop this. And what do you know there’s always a way because if that cheese was unstoppable he’d be in the mcs finals winning thousands.
THANK YOU.
That line always shuts them up when i say i'm not 1000 and 0 and winning MCS belts. I've proven that all it comes down to is them not being good at this game. There will always be an excuse for them losing because they think they know football "I was on the county championship as 3rd string kicker and with my superior football knowlege i would win at this game is if wasn't for these darn kids and thier cheese"...
swatthatdot said:THANK YOU.
That line always shuts them up when i say i'm not 1000 and 0 and winning MCS belts. I've proven that all it comes down to is them not being good at this game. There will always be an excuse for them losing because they think they know football "I was on the county championship as 3rd string kicker and with my superior football knowlege i would win at this game is if wasn't for these darn kids and thier cheese"...
Good day
Again I think you and some others are missing the point .it’s not about who’s good or who’s bad at the game. its about at the end of the day it’s supposed to be a game that anyone could and should play and build their team up along the course of time and not have to worry about going into a match all year long and going up against these people that have found the exploits in the game. And if we were going by your scenario, wouldn’t you think that EA would know that the people that are good in the game probably don’t upgrade their team as Much and have more coins through rewards rather than someone who isn’t as good?
Or maybe a person who just likes the whole concept of mut and can afford to use points at the marketplace to build his team only to see when he goes online he is going up against the same exploits from game to game rather than someone beating him off the basic elements of the sport and why him and others flock to the game in the first place