Does Relentless do anything if you have Colossus but no Double or Nothing

RavensFlockLetsFly said:

DoN and both threats are not needed with UF or Colossus

Wow, I didn’t know this, because, again, the descriptions identify different traits in the block shed functions of the abilities:

Double or Nothing: Wins are “dominant”

Unstoppable Force: “Win-Rate” and “block shed speed” (one-on-one pass blocking only)

Colossus: “Win-Rate” and “block shed speed”

My understanding was that “dominant” was not merely improved block shed speed, but of the fastest animations of block sheds. Further, since Unstoppable Force only works against pass blocking, Double or Nothing involves all types of blocks (despite the ambiguous reference to “pass rush points”).

phatalerror said:

Wow, I didn’t know this, because, again, the descriptions identify different traits in the block shed functions of the abilities:

Double or Nothing: Wins are “dominant”

Unstoppable Force: “Win-Rate” and “block shed speed” (one-on-one pass blocking only)

Colossus: “Win-Rate” and “block shed speed”

My understanding was that “dominant” was not merely improved block shed speed, but of the fastest animations of block sheds. Further, since Unstoppable Force only works against pass blocking, Double or Nothing involves all types of blocks (despite the ambiguous reference to “pass rush points”).

interesting

I've been running with DoN or either threat on my players and they have just been going insane with colossus

jimshredder said:

4 Man front right now

Sapp & Reddick DT 

Flacco & Milano DE

All (4) have colossus and Run stopper - along with pick artist, tackle supreme, DoN

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Then Jessie Bates and Ed Too Tall as Sub Nickle LBs - both with run stopper and universal coverage

I’m about to revamp to this.  I’m running 3 dual threats snd two or three colossus, and each has either inside stuff or no outsiders.  I think on two of them, I’m running reinforcement as the second passive exfactor.  So, are you telling me run stopper is that good that I could take reinforcement off?

And also, you mean run stopper (the one with the man with a radar beaming out of him), not run stuffer (the bowling ball exfactor), right?

hom3y said:

I’m about to revamp to this.  I’m running 3 dual threats snd two or three colossus, and each has either inside stuff or no outsiders.  I think on two of them, I’m running reinforcement as the second passive exfactor.  So, are you telling me run stopper is that good that I could take reinforcement off?

And also, you mean run stopper (the one with the man with a radar beaming out of him), not run stuffer (the bowling ball exfactor), right?

Sorry...I use Run stuffer (bowling ball)

I think Run Stuffer is better than reinforcement...it has to be

Reinforcement provides KOs...an advantage over run stuffer

So I think Run Stuffer has to have advatnage in the run game to balance out

So no one here thought of using Coloussus and Run Stuffer together?