DDA is real

Buccs4047 said:

EA needs to keep little Johnny and Timmy engaged to the game. There is something in the game that keeps players playing. people don't want to play if they lose all the time. EA makes sure they win a few.  That's also the #1 reason there are a bunch of glitches in the game. EA puts them there for a reason. player engagement.

You just explained RNG pretty well. Too bad the DDA situation wasn’t addressed, like usual. Seriously just show me something that proves it’s in online games. Everyone says it’s there but yet know one can show any evidence. That’s wild

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Just show some proof? That’s literally all I’m asking for. If it’s in online games I would like to see how it works. I’m not going to believe someone who “thinks” it’s there.

phatalerror said:

You would need a tremendous amount of data within its context, of course. There's no publicly-accessible system allowing us to scrutinize this, nor any way of objectively accumulating this data from our own experiences.

The fact that randomness is expected does make evaluation more complex.

All I'm saying is that any argument that 'this was proven in court' is rubbish. It is both technically and practically false.

I will admit I shouldn’t have said that it was “proven in court”. Still nothing was ever found and the case was dropped. I don’t care about the technicalities of how or why nothing was found or why the case was dropped. The fact is everyone says it’s there and no one can show anything proving it’s there. I just want to see some clips or documentation that proves it’s there. Until then I can’t believe it.

phatalerror said:

Absence of coherent, logical arguments to the contrary. How about that?

The arguments that DDA doesn't exist are super-weak. Like, shield-of-disbelief weak.

Can you do me a favour and look up burden of proof? thanks

droblunts313 said:

Look up the difference between RNG and DDA. DDA is not in online gameplay. It’s been proven in court.

Was not proven in court never went to trial and got ruled on before you state untrue facts. I’m sure EA gave that person a nice pay day to just go away who did file a case

Buccs4047 said:

Congrats on the dump truck.  I knew I recognized the name.

Thank you, man.

LOL I thought it was me and my inept play (possibly still is!) 

One play that stuck out in my mind is I had position right in front of a receiver and hit Y to jump and intercept and my player didn't move, the guy caught the ball, we both stared at each other for a beat, then he took off down the sideline...damndest thing...

phatalerror said:

There are things I will completely ignore when you say them. This is not one, because it's 100% untrue.

There was never any court judgment.

Prove me wrong. End of story.

Good day 

I was curious and took a look into it myself and it appears that the engineers showed proof that there was no DDA in the game but I’m guessing the investigation team did not know that players are triggered by abilities and could be using that through code to predict outcomes therefore you wouldn’t see DDA scripts because the coding is through abilities and animations.

Hdog2412 said:

Was not proven in court never went to trial and got ruled on before you state untrue facts. I’m sure EA gave that person a nice pay day to just go away who did file a case

You're correct. I shouldn’t have said what I said. The fact of the matter is it’s never been proven to be in online games. A lot of people say it’s in online games but yet no one can come up with any legitimate evidence to prove it exists in online games. Kinda weird isn’t it? Why don’t people just provide the proof of what they believe?

droblunts313 said:

You're correct. I shouldn’t have said what I said. The fact of the matter is it’s never been proven to be in online games. A lot of people say it’s in online games but yet no one can come up with any legitimate evidence to prove it exists in online games. Kinda weird isn’t it? Why don’t people just provide the proof of what they believe?

The only true way to do it is if EA shared there code which they would not by your logic. But there is definitely things that happen in online games that point towards a strong possibility of it. 

Example I can think of that hits this perfect from my experience is if your beating an opponent pretty bad early in the game it will pop up and ask if they want to quit because the are out matched. If they say no and stay in the game I’ve noticed a big difference. 

Such as dropping wide open passes for no reason, picks dropped for no reason even your opponent made a horrible read. There must be some reason for things like this to happen after that message appears do you not think

Here's my argument against the possibility of DDA. I played a guy in MUT last night who literally felt he was such a great player that any and every play in the game on offense or defense he rationalized as the game letting me off the hook. 

I call an inside zone run and immediately audible to a short pass to bait him into using his LB and pulling him out of position to stop the run when I no-huddled and claims the game bailed me out. I explain the bait and switch that already planned on the play selection screen and he still believed it was the game. 

His team was more powerful than mine and he swore he was going to get an easy win yet I was outplaying him with an underrated squad because his defensive and offensive strategy was extremely basic.

 No matter what was going on in the game his cope was to constantly call anything I did lucky and/or the game bailing me out. It wasn't the fact that he would roll out with Jayden Daniels to the right almost every other player for a deep shot so I used my rusher to QB spy. It had absolutely nothing to do with me figuring out that he had no clue how to beat Cover 4 and was never gonna take what my defense was giving him underneath. 

With all that said when I've played MUT this game has never given me any breaks when I've played opponents with much better teams than I have. I'm currently running with barely a 90 overall team after not playing MUT for a few months in a row. 

I think what's really going on specifically when it comes to MUT is that players fall in love with player speed and other numbers but don't truly understand how all of those things correlate. Some players have fast, but stupid defenders in their defenses. Some players have primarily zone guys playing man or vice versa. They have undersized guys in defenses that they should be using larger players. They have larger guys in spots that they might need smaller guys. Not every player can play in every defense or offense. There are players out there that never really figure out the basics.

BetterThanSam said:

I now know, no doubt in my mind, DDA is a real thing in this game/some very close form of it. I just played this guy, and all in the same drive, 97 WILL Ken Houston dropped 2 picks, one of which he had uni activated, also has LA, and the user card also dropped one (no LA but right into his hands) 

Those who thinks it isn’t a thing, what do you say to this?

Welcome to the conversation.

Go play solos, there are different difficulties. You can see the difference in animations.

Now ask yourself, woulda company be willing to control outcomes for money?

BoomCrew said:

Here's my argument against the possibility of DDA. I played a guy in MUT last night who literally felt he was such a great player that any and every play in the game on offense or defense he rationalized as the game letting me off the hook. 

I call an inside zone run and immediately audible to a short pass to bait him into using his LB and pulling him out of position to stop the run when I no-huddled and claims the game bailed me out. I explain the bait and switch that already planned on the play selection screen and he still believed it was the game. 

His team was more powerful than mine and he swore he was going to get an easy win yet I was outplaying him with an underrated squad because his defensive and offensive strategy was extremely basic.

 No matter what was going on in the game his cope was to constantly call anything I did lucky and/or the game bailing me out. It wasn't the fact that he would roll out with Jayden Daniels to the right almost every other player for a deep shot so I used my rusher to QB spy. It had absolutely nothing to do with me figuring out that he had no clue how to beat Cover 4 and was never gonna take what my defense was giving him underneath. 

With all that said when I've played MUT this game has never given me any breaks when I've played opponents with much better teams than I have. I'm currently running with barely a 90 overall team after not playing MUT for a few months in a row. 

I think what's really going on specifically when it comes to MUT is that players fall in love with player speed and other numbers but don't truly understand how all of those things correlate. Some players have fast, but stupid defenders in their defenses. Some players have primarily zone guys playing man or vice versa. They have undersized guys in defenses that they should be using larger players. They have larger guys in spots that they might need smaller guys. Not every player can play in every defense or offense. There are players out there that never really figure out the basics.

It’s hard to tell sometimes, because people can fairly use adjustments for an advantage or even expose poor coding and “glitch” there way to wins.

But….

Go play solos, there are different difficulties. You can see the difference in animations.

Now ask yourself, woulda company be willing to control outcomes for money?

I’ve been playing madden since first one! Most of yall was still in diapers!!

So I’ve Seen and played through every nightmare glitch you boys could imagine and I’ll say!!

You boys are nuts and can’t believe what I’m reading! I call this topic, 

“The Science 🧪 of Why I Lose!!” 😂 

Look this topic is so old and crazy it’s pathetic! Now I’m Not saying there’s no logic or truth to it! But in a way you sound no different than countless people about a roulette wheel 🎰 🤦‍♂️ or casino!

A simpler solution is spending more time getting better ❤️‍🩹/scheme change) and less time trying to figure out why you lose so much lmfao!

Cause when 2 people compete one loses one wins one is the victor and one is the victim! Same rules in the jungle!

So let me guess when a lion 🦁 is chasing a zebra 🦓 and is about to clamp down but @the last second lion steps in a hole/divot 🕳️  in the ground it doesn’t see and zebra escapes is that DDA??????!!!??????!!!!!???LMFAO