Huge Chiefs and Chris Jones fan. I see a lot of people saying he’s the best card in the game but I can’t get him to do anything close to Sapp. I’ve moved him around from DT to DE. I typically run 3-3-5 sending 3 and 4. I don’t want to give up on him but he’s not cutting it and I’m not sure why…running Blitz, DT, TS, IT, Reach Elite, DON. Any thoughts on why he sucks for me?
Are you running colossus, also, I’ve done this before, make sure his abilities are active in the lineup
Imdmanlol said:Are you running colossus, also, I’ve done this before, make sure his abilities are active in the lineup
Yes with all three baked on abilities as well.
Mine works great. cut the line like butter
Pizzapat23 said:Huge Chiefs and Chris Jones fan. I see a lot of people saying he’s the best card in the game but I can’t get him to do anything close to Sapp. I’ve moved him around from DT to DE. I typically run 3-3-5 sending 3 and 4. I don’t want to give up on him but he’s not cutting it and I’m not sure why…running Blitz, DT, TS, IT, Reach Elite, DON. Any thoughts on why he sucks for me?
He’s glitched for sures. I tried him at DT and in like 400 downs played he had 2 tackles for a loss and zero sacks. I had Sapp at DT and he outperformed Jones by miles. I tried switching around Jones abilities too still nothing. EA definitely nerfed him bcuz if he had all those abilities and they actually worked he would average like 5 sacks a game lol so a trillion percent the card had to be nerfed
Yk I’m hearing crazy slander but for about 100 downs for me he’s got 30 sacks couples strips like just as much TFL’s and gets some of the nasty animations I’ve seen in a hot minute so
Pizzapat23 said:Huge Chiefs and Chris Jones fan. I see a lot of people saying he’s the best card in the game but I can’t get him to do anything close to Sapp. I’ve moved him around from DT to DE. I typically run 3-3-5 sending 3 and 4. I don’t want to give up on him but he’s not cutting it and I’m not sure why…running Blitz, DT, TS, IT, Reach Elite, DON. Any thoughts on why he sucks for me?
Strong name, btw. 🍕 Too bad you have such terrible taste in teams, but I'll try not to hold that against you.
I'm not sure what to tell you other than it's extremely difficult to get production out of the DT spot. Blitz can take a while to truly shine, as it doesn't have as much opportunity to work, so if you're primarily playing House Rules, maybe that's part of the issue?
Across 34 games I'm showing:
- 16 Solo Tackles
- 15 Tackle Assists
- 18 TFL
- 6 Sacks
- 1 Interception (returned 53 yards for TD)
- and 1 fumble recovery
433 total snaps played.
In terms of ability stack; Stonewall, Reach Elite, Interior Threat, Tackle Supreme, Under Pressure, Dual Threat & Blitz. Plus baked on; Colossus, Relentless & Run Stuffer.
peatrick said:Strong name, btw. 🍕 Too bad you have such terrible taste in teams, but I'll try not to hold that against you.
I'm not sure what to tell you other than it's extremely difficult to get production out of the DT spot. Blitz can take a while to truly shine, as it doesn't have as much opportunity to work, so if you're primarily playing House Rules, maybe that's part of the issue?
Across 34 games I'm showing:
- 16 Solo Tackles
- 15 Tackle Assists
- 18 TFL
- 6 Sacks
- 1 Interception (returned 53 yards for TD)
- and 1 fumble recovery
433 total snaps played.
In terms of ability stack; Stonewall, Reach Elite, Interior Threat, Tackle Supreme, Under Pressure, Dual Threat & Blitz. Plus baked on; Colossus, Relentless & Run Stuffer.
From my understanding at least with dual threat you get all the pass rushing interior threat and edge threat plus KO’s
GreenHoneyPack said:From my understanding at least with dual threat you get all the pass rushing interior threat and edge threat plus KO’s
Uhhh, my meager understanding of Dual Threat is that it's the combination of Unstoppable Force, plus KOs (but not the improved reaction time that we'd get from Universal Coverage, etc.) -- not sure about any type of "Edge Threat" component, however.
30 sacks in 100 plays lmaaao ok bud we get it you’re playing against the CPU
OvOSzn said:30 sacks in 100 plays lmaaao ok bud we get it you’re playing against the CPU
Well damn bud strictly H2H cpu plays when i wanna warm up for my pre adjustment on the sticks still warming up and learning how to be quicker with them but damn bud real defensive on there a bit huh?
peatrick said:Uhhh, my meager understanding of Dual Threat is that it's the combination of Unstoppable Force, plus KOs (but not the improved reaction time that we'd get from Universal Coverage, etc.) -- not sure about any type of "Edge Threat" component, however.
I mean at this rate with EA who knows but for a while dual threat was combinations of all pass rushing badges+ KO no reaction
GreenHoneyPack said:Well damn bud strictly H2H cpu plays when i wanna warm up for my pre adjustment on the sticks still warming up and learning how to be quicker with them but damn bud real defensive on there a bit huh?
Haha not defensive one bit just hilarious people claiming this cards stats when they are nowhere close to real.
30 sacks - 100 plays, people spam Hb stretch half the time so that’s 50 plays right there. So let me get this straight your Chris Jones has THIRTY SACKS IN 50 PLAYS ?? LMAO. 😂 We believe you dog we believe you LOL
edit- I bought the card again, in 25 plays he has 40 sacks, 10 INT’s and 50 tackles for a loss he’s the best DT in Madden
GreenHoneyPack said:I mean at this rate with EA who knows but for a while dual threat was combinations of all pass rushing badges+ KO no reaction
Sadly, none of these newer / combo ("next-gen") abilities are on the various sites: https://abilities.clutchtrait.com/ -- so we're all left to wonder and speculate.
I believe it to be simply Unstoppable Force, plus knock-outs (but not reaction time). Unless/until we have more compelling evidence, that's kind of how i'm operating. Last time i used Dual Threat exclusively was on Derrick Henry (ROLB), but 2AP was a bit steep, so didn't last very long. Prior to that, it was on an uhhhh 92 OVR Unstoppable player, everyone was running those Unstoppable X-factors, made the cards WAY ahead of their time. It was very effective as pure pass rusher type role back then.
OvOSzn said:Haha not defensive one bit just hilarious people claiming this cards stats when they are nowhere close to real.
30 sacks - 100 plays, people spam Hb stretch half the time so that’s 50 plays right there. So let me get this straight your Chris Jones has THIRTY SACKS IN 50 PLAYS ?? LMAO. 😂 We believe you dog we believe you LOLedit- I bought the card again, in 25 plays he has 40 sacks, 10 INT’s and 50 tackles for a loss he’s the best DT in Madden
I play a shit ton of squads less cheese lot more passes only lately have I’ve seen the transfer over VG Ryn style O