BAIL OUTS

I just lost a close h2h that I was playing great defense, then 4th qtr w 18 seconds left he throws a slant that two DBs completely whiff and safety gets blocked. Almost makes you want to smash shit.

OOG said:

Because there is nothing to prove in a court of law. 

Anyone that routinely beats up on their opponents knows it's real.

I had a game recently where its 21 - 0. The guy does nothing the whole game, he started playing like he gave up. He just throws the ball up all 4th quarter, all the sudden the passes start connecting, when the game was over it was 21-24-- from one quarters output. It's real.

Again, your one of those guys who plays the entire game because you're used to losing and ends up winning by 3. That's why you don't want to accept it's real.

So just becuase some random kid caught a bs ball in the 4th quarter down 21 means DDA is real? 🤣🤣🤣 stuff like that happens in all sports games. People expect these games to be made perfectly with no issues. Bs happens all the time and it goes both ways.

droblunts313 said:

So just becuase some random kid caught a bs ball in the 4th quarter down 21 means DDA is real? 🤣🤣🤣 stuff like that happens in all sports games. People expect these games to be made perfectly with no issues. Bs happens all the time and it goes both ways.

stuff like that happens in all sports games

EXACTLY STUPID. It's by design and it's already been documented.

This is 100% FACTS. Back2Back Bots. BAILOUT is heavy vs Big Skill Gap Opps.

droblunts313 said:

Yea I’m sorry but I don’t believe in something that has never been proven. It’s like Bigfoot for example, 1000’s of people have said they’ve seen him but no one can come up with any proof whatsoever. Bigfoot isn’t the greatest example but I hope you understand where I’m coming from.

The problem with the whole dispute is that proving EA's programming skews intra-game results comes with a preponderance of statistical evidence in the form of anecdotally recorded outcomes, but proving that the statistics themselves derive directly from algorithms buried within the programming would require forensic analysis on the scale of what is used in government-level cybersecurity applications. Regrettably, the cost of attempting to implicate EA's programming as the cause of the results well exceeds the projected damages suffered by the plaintiffs. Therefore, a combination of the limitations imposed by tort law and the evident obfuscated condition of EA's code makes discovering proof of the implementation of DDA or its analogy impractical.

If you choose not to believe for lack of empirical evidence, I can understand and respect that. For me, what strongly swings my convictions against EA is that they don't even know what they are doing. It's like a blind man walking into a bar, and later saying he was never there because he didn't see the bar.

phatalerror said:

The problem with the whole dispute is that proving EA's programming skews intra-game results comes with a preponderance of statistical evidence in the form of anecdotally recorded outcomes, but proving that the statistics themselves derive directly from algorithms buried within the programming would require forensic analysis on the scale of what is used in government-level cybersecurity applications. Regrettably, the cost of attempting to implicate EA's programming as the cause of the results well exceeds the projected damages suffered by the plaintiffs. Therefore, a combination of the limitations imposed by tort law and the evident obfuscated condition of EA's code makes discovering proof of the implementation of DDA or its analogy impractical.

If you choose not to believe for lack of empirical evidence, I can understand and respect that. For me, what strongly swings my convictions against EA is that they don't even know what they are doing. It's like a blind man walking into a bar, and later saying he was never there because he didn't see the bar.

Look I’m man enough to admit that there is a chance DDA could be in online gameplay.  I’m not  100% certain. But with how many people play the game and how much time is spent dissecting every part of it it’s just mind blowing that not a single person can actually show any concrete evidence of it. It’s all people just saying random stuff. I just don’t believe it. Ea has a hard enough time spelling players names correctly and dropping new promos on time. I don’t even think ea has the intelligence to implement something like DDA into online gameplay. They can barley make it so the menus work correctly. Idk

droblunts313 said:

Look I’m man enough to admit that there is a chance DDA could be in online gameplay.  I’m not  100% certain. But with how many people play the game and how much time is spent dissecting every part of it it’s just mind blowing that not a single person can actually show any concrete evidence of it. It’s all people just saying random stuff. I just don’t believe it. Ea has a hard enough time spelling players names correctly and dropping new promos on time. I don’t even think ea has the intelligence to implement something like DDA into online gameplay. They can barley make it so the menus work correctly. Idk

You know how to make DDA work at a rudimentary level? It's super easy:

[Algorithm that determines percentage of chance of catch]+(difference between offense's team OVR and defense's team OVR)

You can also do this:

[Algorithm that determines percentage of chance of catch]+((difference between offense's user's ELO and defense's user's ELO)/100)

You can even stack them both, although the formula would be tweaked somewhat further, as adding or subtracting 20% to the chance of a catch gets really obvious.

Perhaps most significantly, you can append to the algorithm that operates in Clutch scenarios, so that a weaker user's players play more clutch.

I mean, they had to be good enough to give us what we have, so the approaches outlined above are Programmer 101-type stuff.

Dude I’m sorry but you sound like ChatGPT. I’m done with this conversation. We don’t agree and it’s all good.

Bail outs happen. It's football & a videogame. Everyone is going to get lucky and unlucky. What I do wonder is why defense is so questionable game to game. Every game my defense feels either really good or really bad. I don't know if my Elo is just high and everybody I play is good and makes no mistakes but it is annoying. I've lost games this year when I scored every time I touched the football and some came down to a fluke fumble or who had ball last....

especially when i run a man  blitz and my db whos guarding a rb on a texas route somehow ends up 15 yards away from him and i get fried

Lost a game because my receiver wanted to throw the ball over his head and get hit mid air. I'm so done with that stupid animation.

Ya the game keeps people competitive here and there. You can feel it. Fumbles, overthrows, inaccurates, broken tackles. Recievers stepping out of bounds just before being able to run all the way for TD. 2-3 defenders getting their ankles broken if you don’t switch on. And of course the agg catches. Speed boost/bumps for some reason. The slew of good animations vs bad.

It’s whatever. It’s not like it’s every single game like that, but can be somewhat of a combination here and there, and if a lot of it happens it can get pretty comical.

fnkvsh1 said:

i know its a game but the amount of bailouts in h2h is insane , its like you feel when the game is cheating you .... im up 21/14 and he onsides kicks and mckinney goes for it and misses the onside like bro ... and its a big skill gap between me and my opponent like why is the game so one sided idk somebody can relate i know

true words man, you can feel it a 100% that the Game is betraying us.

The Game were kept unclear on purpose.

droblunts313 said:

DDA doesn’t exist

Ok great story bro