Hover over DT in dollar

EazyBreezy said:

gap shooting

damn so unc stick skills are washed 😔

i had a good run

tmac1023 said:

I was hoping someone here would know or have a link.

how to do it is in the title of this forum post, sometimes it doesnt work tho

i usually pass almost every play so i havent had many issue with it. 

but now with me having henry i wanna go crazy with him, so hopefully i dont run into it often

phatalerror said:

Stuff like this makes it obvious people can't tell the difference between real football and Madden's failure to simulate football. When a middle linebacker -- any middle linebacker -- shoots a gap, the gap is there because the wrong line call is made. Plain and simple.

In Madden, I'm not given the tools to direct blockers to a primary and a secondary target. And so on any given down where I want to run Inside Zone, as should absolutely be my prerogative, my opponent can utilize a glitch in the coding to get a guy in untouched on a majority of snaps.

Shooting gaps as happens so often in Madden is unrealistic when compared with the league. In the league, it's because of an error. In Madden, it's because the blocking assignments are determined by inflexible coding and dumb AI.

First I said it’s some what like what happens in real football besides the insta nose tackle  shed bs. I don’t think you clearly understand football and how a 3-4 defense works. 

Great defenses especially back in the day when more teams ran the ball had a 350+ lb nose tackle that would eat up blocks leaving lbs free. They would stack the box meaning the run wasn’t a great call. Leaving a free lane watch Ray Lewis highlights. 

In madden its not prefect  the game needs a lot of work but there is a clear weakness to this so it’s not that bad like other things that just work no matter what. Read the defense and call a pass vs this, easy yards because there is an open throwing lane now. Call a HB draw and there is a run lane. 

only people that complain are the ones who want to run inside zone all game and get mad at the game if they get tackled for a loss when they don’t pass at all.

Use Iform, strong and weak formations.  The FB blocks the user and you can usually get easy 5 yard gains.  You cannot run inside zones against it despite ol adjustments.

EazyBreezy said:

Is there any way I can block the nose and the user? I have 9 o linemen and 1 RB blocking and I still can’t block it, sometimes it does or I just have to make the user miss or get bailed out with freight train

Draws cook. Found out from a YouTuber I watch, draws give you enough time for d line to get blocked and for you to evade the lb… major help for me, finally got my run game going against such users

try draws or duo plays

Hdog2412 said:

First I said it’s some what like what happens in real football besides the insta nose tackle  shed bs. I don’t think you clearly understand football and how a 3-4 defense works. 

Great defenses especially back in the day when more teams ran the ball had a 350+ lb nose tackle that would eat up blocks leaving lbs free. They would stack the box meaning the run wasn’t a great call. Leaving a free lane watch Ray Lewis highlights. 

In madden its not prefect  the game needs a lot of work but there is a clear weakness to this so it’s not that bad like other things that just work no matter what. Read the defense and call a pass vs this, easy yards because there is an open throwing lane now. Call a HB draw and there is a run lane. 

only people that complain are the ones who want to run inside zone all game and get mad at the game if they get tackled for a loss when they don’t pass at all.

If you need to double team a lineman, you should still be able to slide protection. This is fairly basic.

If a coach is trying to run the ball up the middle when losing on the hat count, that's just being obstinate, and it's consistently going to lose yardage.

These are completely different issues that may or may not overlap, but hat count is not the issue that justifies the outsized effect of hover dime.

The reason HB Draw works in that case is not for a football reason. It's for a coding reason.

I pass all the time, so let me be mad for my own reasons, and don't put me in the same box as Vanguard spammers.

EazyBreezy said:

Is there any way I can block the nose and the user? I have 9 o linemen and 1 RB blocking and I still can’t block it, sometimes it does or I just have to make the user miss or get bailed out with freight train

No, there is no way to block the both

You can untarget the user though through OL adjustments to give you a better fighting chance

Such a gay defense ngl

DieDie410 said:

No, there is no way to block the both

You can untarget the user though through OL adjustments to give you a better fighting chance

Such a gay defense ngl

I figured out motioning the far side TE to FB can help(inconsistent as hell but can help)

phatalerror said:

If you need to double team a lineman, you should still be able to slide protection. This is fairly basic.

If a coach is trying to run the ball up the middle when losing on the hat count, that's just being obstinate, and it's consistently going to lose yardage.

These are completely different issues that may or may not overlap, but hat count is not the issue that justifies the outsized effect of hover dime.

The reason HB Draw works in that case is not for a football reason. It's for a coding reason.

I pass all the time, so let me be mad for my own reasons, and don't put me in the same box as Vanguard spammers.

My thing is there are clear ways to beat it and beat it badly there are much much worse things in the game that take a ridiculous amount to counter . I think the game needs a completely new engine and coding for sure but out of all the things over the years this is really not the bad. 

now if they got in automatically on passes too than it would be horrible but if you see that change your play to something that is not running directly at the lb.

 If Tom Brady or Peyton manning saw that in a game they would change the play they would not just go ahead and run inside zone directly at the LB because the chance of him getting free is pretty big since the center has two guys directly in front of him and has to snap the ball . Is it perfect in the game no, but some football sense does carry over and there is a clear weakness to it. People just don’t want to stop running inside zone.

Hdog2412 said:

My thing is there are clear ways to beat it and beat it badly there are much much worse things in the game that take a ridiculous amount to counter . I think the game needs a completely new engine and coding for sure but out of all the things over the years this is really not the bad. 

now if they got in automatically on passes too than it would be horrible but if you see that change your play to something that is not running directly at the lb.

 If Tom Brady or Peyton manning saw that in a game they would change the play they would not just go ahead and run inside zone directly at the LB because the chance of him getting free is pretty big since the center has two guys directly in front of him and has to snap the ball . Is it perfect in the game no, but some football sense does carry over and there is a clear weakness to it. People just don’t want to stop running inside zone.

Relativism is an easy way to justify something that is broken.

Perhaps hover dime is far more broken than you think. You probably think it's not so much a problem because thirteen defenders on the field would still be out of position on plays with broken route combinations and Freight Train breaking so many tackles. Once the defensive linemen can start taking on both Secure Tackler and Reach Elite for 0 AP, Freight Train will likely seem less broken in relation to the rest of the game. This game is always a low-AP ability from breaking entirely. Last year it was Set Feet Lead and RPO's.

There is more cheese this year than in any year I've played this game. It's pervasive. It's horrendous.

phatalerror said:

Relativism is an easy way to justify something that is broken.

Perhaps hover dime is far more broken than you think. You probably think it's not so much a problem because thirteen defenders on the field would still be out of position on plays with broken route combinations and Freight Train breaking so many tackles. Once the defensive linemen can start taking on both Secure Tackler and Reach Elite for 0 AP, Freight Train will likely seem less broken in relation to the rest of the game. This game is always a low-AP ability from breaking entirely. Last year it was Set Feet Lead and RPO's.

There is more cheese this year than in any year I've played this game. It's pervasive. It's horrendous.

Lmao yea I don’t know what to tell you if you struggle vs it that’s a you thing. This year offense has been next level easy. 

I think RPOs and the HB direct snap are the 2 worse things this year. With the ability to hot route a lot of RPOs now and I have yet to see an illegal man down field call happen. Even though they hold it super late and send WRs on post routes the AI dumbs out and plays the run yet when the actually run the ball they all never play the run that well 😂

The coaching adjustment to play pass just doesn’t work and should be fixed, or just let the user over ride who the read key is and then just play the pass if you tell them to

Hdog2412 said:

Lmao yea I don’t know what to tell you if you struggle vs it that’s a you thing. This year offense has been next level easy. 

I think RPOs and the HB direct snap are the 2 worse things this year. With the ability to hot route a lot of RPOs now and I have yet to see an illegal man down field call happen. Even though they hold it super late and send WRs on post routes the AI dumbs out and plays the run yet when the actually run the ball they all never play the run that well 😂

The coaching adjustment to play pass just doesn’t work and should be fixed, or just let the user over ride who the read key is and then just play the pass if you tell them to

The offenses you speak of are not football offenses. They're cheating offenses. Everything to beat the cheating involves cheating. The game is broken. It's not easy because offense is inherently easy. You've already acknowledged the game is messed up. I have nothing to add.