Why don’t they address the issue of spamming plays

Good day, everyone

 you know, I’ve come to the point  where it’s not even fun to log on and play this game anymore and it’s a shame because there’s a lot of good things about  Madden , like building your team , seeing your favorite  players in the game and trying to obtain them, and simply enjoying the whole aspect of football on your screen but every time you log onto this game, you are playing up against somebody who is spamming  one play mostly whether it’s on offense or defense, you quit the game only to play up against another person either doing the same thing or just another exploit and it just  infuriating because it doesn’t make it enjoyable 

How many games do I have to  quit until I find somebody just to play a good football game? 

Where is EA when it comes to this as they are advertising packs and having people pay to build their team or put in the time to obtain these players only to get cheated in a game and then it becomes the whole “can’t beat them then join em “ aspect 

And that’s literally every year what this game becomes

ItsmeD said:

Good day, everyone

 you know, I’ve come to the point  where it’s not even fun to log on and play this game anymore and it’s a shame because there’s a lot of good things about  Madden , like building your team , seeing your favorite  players in the game and trying to obtain them, and simply enjoying the whole aspect of football on your screen but every time you log onto this game, you are playing up against somebody who is spamming  one play mostly whether it’s on offense or defense, you quit the game only to play up against another person either doing the same thing or just another exploit and it just  infuriating because it doesn’t make it enjoyable 

How many games do I have to  quit until I find somebody just to play a good football game? 

Where is EA when it comes to this as they are advertising packs and having people pay to build their team or put in the time to obtain these players only to get cheated in a game and then it becomes the whole “can’t beat them then join em “ aspect 

And that’s literally every year what this game becomes

There are similar-minded people out there.

I don’t think they will but they should do something similar to what you could do in franchise to lock the play so you can’t call it b2b

ApolloZ said:

I don’t think they will but they should do something similar to what you could do in franchise to lock the play so you can’t call it b2b

they have done house rules were its like that

RavensFlockLetsFly said:

they have done house rules were its like that

So who is the sadist that took that away? The fourth graders and the kids that are at school to study are being bullied by the sixth graders. It's gross, it's stupid.

Trust me your not alone but when you watch those tournaments they do the exact same thing or YouTubers and so forth the followers you play copy the same thing.

100% agree. It’s possible to win event tokens, make champion in ranked, and have millions of coin without spamming the same plays or formations. However 98% of players won’t. They’d rather look on YouTube to find the hottest new bunch x nasty route combos  that dumb out coverage, or defenses that dumb out blocking assignments and  attempt to win by exploits instead of any skill or football knowledge. Nobody wants to find  plays on their own that they like for numerous football situations, or matching personnel on defense and attempt to out smart or counter each others  tendencies. Every game is some  spammer, and either they are really good at it and it’s hard to beat or you make them look stupid until they quit after the first quarter while they don’t even attempt to adjust. Game could be fun, but how these people play day in and day out for hours running the same thing over and over can’t be fun can it?? Apparently it is.. def not for me, I actually don’t get it lol smh. Game is boring af.

I agree with you 100%. I hate EA, pretty sure it stands for Evil Assholes. 

I don't have the answers, but my thought is that the evolution of the coin market within MUT has ruined the game. Over the years as they have taken game modes we loved like Salary Cap and Mut Draft, and replaced them with stupid temporary events, and transitioned almost everything to BND rewards for the solos and field passes. Packs have been getting smaller and smaller in terms of cards per pack every year and not to mention just how ridiculous the formatting is on these packs. Just straight gambling and terrible odds. Also training is a total scam. Meanwhile the cost of desirable cards goes up, requiring the amount of time you have to play this game to accumulate coins goes up (actually playing the game, not INVESTING). The stock market simulator that has occurred in recent years is great for the ones benefiting, but it's awful for the part timer or younger adults and children that don't grasp some of those concepts. 

I think this creates a tinge of desperation for a lot of people to not waste their time when they play. The rewards are not good enough for you if you lose, so people will do anything to win 

I want to keep going, but there is just too many things in my head about this game that really get me spun up, and I know some narcissist is going to come in here and preach and argue.

ItsmeD said:

Good day, everyone

 you know, I’ve come to the point  where it’s not even fun to log on and play this game anymore and it’s a shame because there’s a lot of good things about  Madden , like building your team , seeing your favorite  players in the game and trying to obtain them, and simply enjoying the whole aspect of football on your screen but every time you log onto this game, you are playing up against somebody who is spamming  one play mostly whether it’s on offense or defense, you quit the game only to play up against another person either doing the same thing or just another exploit and it just  infuriating because it doesn’t make it enjoyable 

How many games do I have to  quit until I find somebody just to play a good football game? 

Where is EA when it comes to this as they are advertising packs and having people pay to build their team or put in the time to obtain these players only to get cheated in a game and then it becomes the whole “can’t beat them then join em “ aspect 

And that’s literally every year what this game becomes

Unless your team is completely overpowered (by a P2W team), then if they are running the same play you should be able to make adjustments to stop it. If your getting killed by the same play it takes 1 minute to fix it by watching a short youtube video. In the NFL if the same thing is working the whole game does the NFL just tell teams to stop running it? Half of the game is building the team and opening packs, but also learning the game and what stops what. Learning how to stop crossers, drags, glitchy spacing switch RB route, or coverage beaters all are important and if you want to win consistently will need to learn how to stop it.

Babynose said:

I agree with you 100%. I hate EA, pretty sure it stands for Evil Assholes. 

I don't have the answers, but my thought is that the evolution of the coin market within MUT has ruined the game. Over the years as they have taken game modes we loved like Salary Cap and Mut Draft, and replaced them with stupid temporary events, and transitioned almost everything to BND rewards for the solos and field passes. Packs have been getting smaller and smaller in terms of cards per pack every year and not to mention just how ridiculous the formatting is on these packs. Just straight gambling and terrible odds. Also training is a total scam. Meanwhile the cost of desirable cards goes up, requiring the amount of time you have to play this game to accumulate coins goes up (actually playing the game, not INVESTING). The stock market simulator that has occurred in recent years is great for the ones benefiting, but it's awful for the part timer or younger adults and children that don't grasp some of those concepts. 

I think this creates a tinge of desperation for a lot of people to not waste their time when they play. The rewards are not good enough for you if you lose, so people will do anything to win 

I want to keep going, but there is just too many things in my head about this game that really get me spun up, and I know some narcissist is going to come in here and preach and argue.

I came in to argue with the guy who cannot make adjustments on defense, but completely agree with you. The game isn't good.

Wlindee said:

Unless your team is completely overpowered (by a P2W team), then if they are running the same play you should be able to make adjustments to stop it. If your getting killed by the same play it takes 1 minute to fix it by watching a short youtube video. In the NFL if the same thing is working the whole game does the NFL just tell teams to stop running it? Half of the game is building the team and opening packs, but also learning the game and what stops what. Learning how to stop crossers, drags, glitchy spacing switch RB route, or coverage beaters all are important and if you want to win consistently will need to learn how to stop it.

But will the one-minute YouTube video tell you how to beat the play using football logic, or merely how to tune Madden's defensive AI to beat a specific play?

When you've covered one exploit, will you be left vulnerable to another exploit? For example, will I have to manually tweak coverage drop depths to stop one exploit, and then be vulnerable to a tweaked flood concept run repeatedly off no-huddle quick-snaps, with no way to reasonably alter my drop depths unless I call a timeout or force an incompletion?

When someone's spamming one play and it isn't effective, they don't suddenly revert to playing football. They simply switch to another exploit that is less effective for them, but for which the opposing user may likewise not be as familiar in defending.

I routinely record and replay footage from quick sacks and quick penetrations. In many cases, I simply was the victim of an RNG block-shed super-win. In a handful of cases, I didn't anticipate a free rusher and didn't respond appropriately. However, far too often, the quick penetration is not a numbers loss, not a player-vs.-player loss, and not a protection scheme loss, but simply the result of a glitch where a blocker didn't engage as would have been routinely expected by the NFL's 161st-ranked offensive lineman. What's the counter for this? There's no football answer for this; you have to find the answer programmatically, and this is not football. When I have to restrict my playcalling to a subset of offensive and defensive formations and plays and have to toss the others as vulnerable to exploits, it plays into the hands of my opponent, and this is precisely why Hover Dollar is a thing.

Pay-to-Win isn't even a thing this year. In fact, because of the variety of exploits that can be employed right now, you can dump dollars into this game and still lose badly to malicious users with NMS lineups comprised of players from earlier releases. But pair exploits with proficient use of the Auction House or your weekly allowance, and Michael Vick HB Stretch Spamming can get you the next Event Champion.

phatalerror said:

But will the one-minute YouTube video tell you how to beat the play using football logic, or merely how to tune Madden's defensive AI to beat a specific play?

When you've covered one exploit, will you be left vulnerable to another exploit? For example, will I have to manually tweak coverage drop depths to stop one exploit, and then be vulnerable to a tweaked flood concept run repeatedly off no-huddle quick-snaps, with no way to reasonably alter my drop depths unless I call a timeout or force an incompletion?

When someone's spamming one play and it isn't effective, they don't suddenly revert to playing football. They simply switch to another exploit that is less effective for them, but for which the opposing user may likewise not be as familiar in defending.

I routinely record and replay footage from quick sacks and quick penetrations. In many cases, I simply was the victim of an RNG block-shed super-win. In a handful of cases, I didn't anticipate a free rusher and didn't respond appropriately. However, far too often, the quick penetration is not a numbers loss, not a player-vs.-player loss, and not a protection scheme loss, but simply the result of a glitch where a blocker didn't engage as would have been routinely expected by the NFL's 161st-ranked offensive lineman. What's the counter for this? There's no football answer for this; you have to find the answer programmatically, and this is not football. When I have to restrict my playcalling to a subset of offensive and defensive formations and plays and have to toss the others as vulnerable to exploits, it plays into the hands of my opponent, and this is precisely why Hover Dollar is a thing.

Pay-to-Win isn't even a thing this year. In fact, because of the variety of exploits that can be employed right now, you can dump dollars into this game and still lose badly to malicious users with NMS lineups comprised of players from earlier releases. But pair exploits with proficient use of the Auction House or your weekly allowance, and Michael Vick HB Stretch Spamming can get you the next Event Champion.

Well said

phatalerror said:

But will the one-minute YouTube video tell you how to beat the play using football logic, or merely how to tune Madden's defensive AI to beat a specific play?

When you've covered one exploit, will you be left vulnerable to another exploit? For example, will I have to manually tweak coverage drop depths to stop one exploit, and then be vulnerable to a tweaked flood concept run repeatedly off no-huddle quick-snaps, with no way to reasonably alter my drop depths unless I call a timeout or force an incompletion?

When someone's spamming one play and it isn't effective, they don't suddenly revert to playing football. They simply switch to another exploit that is less effective for them, but for which the opposing user may likewise not be as familiar in defending.

I routinely record and replay footage from quick sacks and quick penetrations. In many cases, I simply was the victim of an RNG block-shed super-win. In a handful of cases, I didn't anticipate a free rusher and didn't respond appropriately. However, far too often, the quick penetration is not a numbers loss, not a player-vs.-player loss, and not a protection scheme loss, but simply the result of a glitch where a blocker didn't engage as would have been routinely expected by the NFL's 161st-ranked offensive lineman. What's the counter for this? There's no football answer for this; you have to find the answer programmatically, and this is not football. When I have to restrict my playcalling to a subset of offensive and defensive formations and plays and have to toss the others as vulnerable to exploits, it plays into the hands of my opponent, and this is precisely why Hover Dollar is a thing.

Pay-to-Win isn't even a thing this year. In fact, because of the variety of exploits that can be employed right now, you can dump dollars into this game and still lose badly to malicious users with NMS lineups comprised of players from earlier releases. But pair exploits with proficient use of the Auction House or your weekly allowance, and Michael Vick HB Stretch Spamming can get you the next Event Champion.

WELL SAID!

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