It's Not the Rampant Cheating In Itself That's So Bad

droblunts313 said:

You can block any stunt in the game.

Did you see the video i posted? This isn't just calling a stunt, it's a glitch and you have to do some other things to make it work.

ReginaldJr3 said:

Ok Clark

That’s all you can say? Lmao I actually go off logic and facts rather than emotions.

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Lmao you can’t claim something is there and then show no proof. You are going off emotions from what has happened to you in previous games. I’m going off what has been legally settled in court. Those are facts. Sometimes the truth hurts bud.

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Why so emotional? Just show me facts that DDA is in the game and then we can actual start a friendly debate. Until then I don’t see where this is going. You’re saying something is in the game but can’t show any evidence whatsoever so ever. Hmmm.

swatthatdot said:

It's not a normal stunt, it's a glitch that you have to do some other stuff to make happen. I can literally send one single person and the linemen will ignore him. After posting on here this morning i actually messed around and think i'm able to make it come in a lot more than 50%.

This guy might actually be bitching about something normal he just wasn't able to adjust too. Trust me these cry babies get on my nerves too but i was just letting you know there is a glitch blitz.

I’m guessing it requires a specific pair of personnel with specific SPD/ACC/PRC to be at the right pixel at the right moment. Likely a specific alignment. Maybe a certain ability to trigger. Or maybe it works against only certain personnel, perhaps with certain attributes or certain traits. At first I thought it was a loop blitz, but then that’s why I take video now and then to rule out whether stuff was my fault.

My opponent didn’t show it at the start, either. He showed it late in the game on back-to-back must-stop downs.

phatalerror said:

I’m guessing it requires a specific pair of personnel with specific SPD/ACC/PRC to be at the right pixel at the right moment. Likely a specific alignment. Maybe a certain ability to trigger. Or maybe it works against only certain personnel, perhaps with certain attributes or certain traits. At first I thought it was a loop blitz, but then that’s why I take video now and then to rule out whether stuff was my fault.

My opponent didn’t show it at the start, either. He showed it late in the game on back-to-back must-stop downs.

No specific personnel and it can be run out of just a few formations. It's pretty nasty when you put under pressure ability on the blitzer though.  It doesn't work every single time though. I'm sure someone smarter than me could figure it out to make it work every time and it would ruin the game if it got around.

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Lmao I can’t show you something that’s not in the game. If something is there you have to show that it’s there. I can send you the links to the court documents stating that DDA is not in online gameplay. That’s literally all I can do. But I know I’ll send them and then you will come up with some lame excuse. It’s all good man, we disagree and that’s okay. Have a good one!

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Exactly

elmango30 said:

yea you can counter it but that shit is annoying. I don’t do it. NFL teams kinda do tho- you’ll notice some teams kick knuckleballs into the zone to force a return and get good field position

Kicking knuckleballs that move more/bounce unpredictably is not at all the same thing as kicking so that the AI glitches out and doesn't try to catch/field/recover it... like what?

STRIKESHOT1 said:

Kicking knuckleballs that move more/bounce unpredictably is not at all the same thing as kicking so that the AI glitches out and doesn't try to catch/field/recover it... like what?

I didn’t say it was the same I said it was analogous. And you can return against the scum kick, so idk what we’re talking about here

You said NFL teams kinda do the scum kick, they don't, it's not analogous, full stop.

STRIKESHOT1 said:

You said NFL teams kinda do the scum kick, they don't, it's not analogous, full stop.

kicking it in a way where it can’t be returned is easily analogous. Bro. Come on

phatalerror said:

Dude, I watched a stunt get ignored by an interior lineman two downs in a row! What exactly am I supposed to do in this case? As an offensive lineman, your job is to prevent defenders from coming through the gaps. The fact that a defender can stunt isn’t novel, nor does it require elaborate choreography from the offensive linemen. The linemen simply switch assignments.

As implemented in MUT, stunts are simply another opportunity for the game to calculate randomly that a pass rush attempt is successful. However, I watched this happen on two downs in a row with such efficacy (and lack of any attempt by my offensive lineman to engage them) that I am inclined to think this was more than RNG.

Anyway, so glad you could come here and outline exactly what the apparently obvious counter is to stunts in general, apart from a specific stunt that looks to be outright broken. Have a great evening.

First thing I’m going suggest if you didn’t already is go to your coaching adjustment and go to your blocking and make sure it is set to base. A lot of plays have built in blocking that slides your lineman away if you don’t understand the play art this could be the reason why they may just be leaving that guy as the untargeted defender meaning he will not get blocked on purpose. 

if the user is muggin and then running back into coverage that will throw the linemen off it shouldn’t happen as often but this year they added the un target defender and helps a lot so you need to learn these different things and you can make people pay for being overly aggressive. 

I do think it sucks that some things take so many adjustments if some one is spamming plays the AI should be able to pick it up but then that is where skill comes in knowing how to adjust. EA has done decent with all you can do this year to help with bs blitz’s compared to years past

droblunts313 said:

Lmao I can’t show you something that’s not in the game. If something is there you have to show that it’s there. I can send you the links to the court documents stating that DDA is not in online gameplay. That’s literally all I can do. But I know I’ll send them and then you will come up with some lame excuse. It’s all good man, we disagree and that’s okay. Have a good one!

You can't hang your hat on the "court documents" in proof that DDA does or doesn't exist.  The plaintiff merely voluntarily dismissed the case after a conversation with EA.  None of the technical information was ever released so we have no idea what was discussed between EA and the plaintiff.  EA could've give the plaintiff a large sum of money and asked him to go away.  I'm not here to argue the existence or non-existence of DDA, all I'm saying is that court case proves nothing.  At one point in my life, I saw potential HoF baseball players commit perjury saying there was not steroids in baseball.  Point being, not everything that happens in the legal realm is 100% factual.  That's a game as well and EA has some of the highest paid "players" to play said game.