Does crusher stack on Avalanche + ES+ Form Tackle + Extra Pop? Do you actually generate more fumbles, or is adding crusher usless. It feels like Leroy Butler generates more fumbles than my other Surge MLBs who only have Avalanche and ES
Big hitter trait is a must
ES is enforcer, demorilizer, and crusher
RavensFlockLetsFly said:ES is enforcer, demorilizer, and crusher
Personally idk if you’ve noticed but it feels like with ES i don’t get the benefits of Crusher or Demoralizer with that being said it still pops out more fumbles then pregnant seahorses but ultimately i lay a great hit im expecting said RB to be out for a play or 2 and bro is back up in the lineup like i didn’t send him back to the upside down world
GreenHoneyPack said:Personally idk if you’ve noticed but it feels like with ES i don’t get the benefits of Crusher or Demoralizer with that being said it still pops out more fumbles then pregnant seahorses but ultimately i lay a great hit im expecting said RB to be out for a play or 2 and bro is back up in the lineup like i didn’t send him back to the upside down world
true and thats why im thinking similar how shutdown is OSA on crack, ES has a worse version of demorilizer and crusher
RavensFlockLetsFly said:true and thats why im thinking similar how shutdown is OSA on crack, ES has a worse version of demorilizer and crusher
Interesting theory, i wish i could prove (or refute) this, but it's definitely happened before. The primary ability that leaps out at me is the fact Run Stuffer is vastly superior to the combination of Inside Stuff + No Outsiders (and Out My Way / Run Stopper, etc.) or whatever combination of abilities make up the newer stuff.
I've used (and am still using) both combinations of abilities. On Malik Mustapha and Ronnie Lott (my backup safeties) i'm using regular Enforcer and they still seem to knock the ball loose, especially on kickoffs, although i don't know about the stamina penalty. As with most things from EA, it's wildly inconsistent. Some games i'll knock Faalele clear into next week and he'll be gasping for air after the first hit stick. Other games, he just keeps pounding me and no amounts of hits seems to remove him from the lineup.
peatrick said:Interesting theory, i wish i could prove (or refute) this, but it's definitely happened before. The primary ability that leaps out at me is the fact Run Stuffer is vastly superior to the combination of Inside Stuff + No Outsiders (and Out My Way / Run Stopper, etc.) or whatever combination of abilities make up the newer stuff.
I've used (and am still using) both combinations of abilities. On Malik Mustapha and Ronnie Lott (my backup safeties) i'm using regular Enforcer and they still seem to knock the ball loose, especially on kickoffs, although i don't know about the stamina penalty. As with most things from EA, it's wildly inconsistent. Some games i'll knock Faalele clear into next week and he'll be gasping for air after the first hit stick. Other games, he just keeps pounding me and no amounts of hits seems to remove him from the lineup.
you hit it right on the button with that, inconsistency
RavensFlockLetsFly said:ES is enforcer, demorilizer, and crusher
I'm aware, but it rarely feels like fatigue is a problem for opposing players after several successful hit sticks.
Ven1up said:I'm aware, but it rarely feels like fatigue is a problem for opposing players after several successful hit sticks.
I do agree, I think ES might have a worse version of those 2 abiities and that's why adding the ability by itself is working