Ability Overlap

If you have colossus on a card would it be useless to put unstoppable force on it as well? Same question for double or nothing.

Yes both unstoppable force and double or nothing would be useless if you already have colossus on your player.

Theyre different ability. Col is double team. UF is single.

kaotikords said:

Theyre different ability. Col is double team. UF is single.

To my understanding, Collossus is UF but also against double teams, not instead. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s I’ve heard, understood from the description, and experienced myself. Although I’ve stopped spending 1 ap for Collossus and started replacing it with 0 ap UF because Post Up stops Collossus and there is almost always going to be a Post Up double team vs Collossus or UF. Acts the same on single teams so my pass rush still gets home, plus it frees up ap for other random useless abilities on my defense.

@dezcaughtit

ProlateSpheroid said:

To my understanding, Collossus is UF but also against double teams, not instead. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s I’ve heard, understood from the description, and experienced myself. Although I’ve stopped spending 1 ap for Collossus and started replacing it with 0 ap UF because Post Up stops Collossus and there is almost always going to be a Post Up double team vs Collossus or UF. Acts the same on single teams so my pass rush still gets home, plus it frees up ap for other random useless abilities on my defense.

@dezcaughtit

I believe you. Sucks we dont have definitive answers from EA 

Most content creators have said they feel like UF+Collossus is less effective when used together as opposed to UF or Colossus. Colossus is also nullified by post up, which almost everyone has 5-7 abilities on oline now, so getting any kind of 4 man rush to come in is tough.

 It’s still good to stack double or nothing. UF, Relentless, and double or nothing seems to be the best stack for a pass rusher. I’m using run stuffer on everyone though to make sure I don’t give up 200 yards on the ground.

ProlateSpheroid said:

To my understanding, Collossus is UF but also against double teams, not instead. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s I’ve heard, understood from the description, and experienced myself. Although I’ve stopped spending 1 ap for Collossus and started replacing it with 0 ap UF because Post Up stops Collossus and there is almost always going to be a Post Up double team vs Collossus or UF. Acts the same on single teams so my pass rush still gets home, plus it frees up ap for other random useless abilities on my defense.

@dezcaughtit

Thanks! Also that’s interesting about replacing Colussus for UF, does Post Up not neutralize UF?

TheNickSix said:

Most content creators have said they feel like UF+Collossus is less effective when used together as opposed to UF or Colossus. Colossus is also nullified by post up, which almost everyone has 5-7 abilities on oline now, so getting any kind of 4 man rush to come in is tough.

 It’s still good to stack double or nothing. UF, Relentless, and double or nothing seems to be the best stack for a pass rusher. I’m using run stuffer on everyone though to make sure I don’t give up 200 yards on the ground.

Thanks! I had heard that double or nothing was not needed with colossus but I still saw most people were running them together.