Does UF and Collosus stack?

I just picked up Chris Jones and wondering if UF and Collosus stack? What's the best ability stack on him? Do I need DoN and interior threat/under pressure? I've seen mixed responses. Ty

Woodysky said:

I just picked up Chris Jones and wondering if UF and Collosus stack? What's the best ability stack on him? Do I need DoN and interior threat/under pressure? I've seen mixed responses. Ty

He's got Colossus baked on, you do NOT need Unstoppable Force (they're the same basic ability, one just happens to work against double teams).  You can use Blitz in one of the X-factor buckets, it's a must-have ability IMO.  In the other bucket, it's kind of a crap shoot -- i think i have Dual Threat (but feel free to also apply UF, they're all functionally equivalent).

I'm using Under Pressure, but only because i've begun to run out of other useful abilities.  It's nowhere near as impactful as it has been in prior seasons, but i'll take everything I can get to hopefully force random inaccurates.  More often than not, i think it's just a result of the game being a buggy, inconsistent mess, not actually the Under Pressure causing the bad throws.

I'm not using DoN anymore.  Undecided if Interior Threat is worthwhile, i'll need to inspect my full ability stack to see if i'm using it anymore.  The only thing he's missing is Pick Artist, i've really become attached to having D-line Pick Artist on most of my guys, it locks them into catch animations way more often than i anticipated, for those lovely shoestring picks.

I thought that also about UF not stacking with Collosus but I kept seeing people have both on him so thought I would ask. Ty. I've also read reinforcement is still good to have even with run stuffer because it helps with vanguard better than just run stuffer. Not sure if that's true either haha. Blitz is awesome. Jones is not leaving me team for that ability alone. I finally made it to game 6 of house rules yesterday and literally lost in 4th and less than 1. Just needed a couple feet and got sacked my a looping Blitzer. Probably the most mad at a game I have ever been. Forced me to spend every last nickel on Jones.

@Woodysky 

You want Reinforcement up the middle for sure (MLBs and Safeties) to counter OL Vanguards.

Run Stuffer apparently contains Out My Way, which only applies to TE, WR, HB Vanguards (your OLBs).

c59x0x0 said:

@Woodysky 

You want Reinforcement up the middle for sure (MLBs and Safeties) to counter OL Vanguards.

Run Stuffer apparently contains Out My Way, which only applies to TE, WR, HB Vanguards (your OLBs).

So do I need reinforcement on a DT?

@Woodysky I don't think it's effective on a DL and the bucket can probably be spent on something more useful.  The Vanguard OLs need to have momentum for Vanguard to trigger an Impact block.  Happy to be corrected if wrong, but you can test this by swapping in some 80-85 OVR DTs and DEs on your line then go into practice mode and select a run play.  The 80-85 OVRs will not get pancaked 10/10 times, by any of your Vanguard OLs.  Now, select a draw play and do the same (any MLBs/Safeties without reinforcement should get pancaked).

Would be really helpful if the site below was updated to include Vanguard, Reinforcement, etc. to take the guess work out of things like this.  https://abilities.clutchtrait.com/abilities

c59x0x0 said:

@Woodysky I don't think it's effective on a DL and the bucket can probably be spent on something more useful.  The Vanguard OLs need to have momentum for Vanguard to trigger an Impact block.  Happy to be corrected if wrong, but you can test this by swapping in some 80-85 OVR DTs and DEs on your line then go into practice mode and select a run play.  The 80-85 OVRs will not get pancaked 10/10 times, by any of your Vanguard OLs.  Now, select a draw play and do the same (any MLBs/Safeties without reinforcement should get pancaked).

Would be really helpful if the site below was updated to include Vanguard, Reinforcement, etc. to take the guess work out of things like this.  https://abilities.clutchtrait.com/abilities

I’ve learned it doesn’t matter what site you use. None of this stuff is complete.