DT and Reinforcement vs UF and RS which is the better of the bunch

On a linebacker who blitzes occasionally off the edge and drops into coverage 50/50 splits what’s a better combo?

Run Stuffer block shedding is more effective vs Run plays 

UF pass rush wins lead to quicker block shedding

OR

Reinforcement higher chance to defeat run blocks and disrupt catches 

and Dual Threat is the same just against pass blocks. 

Which combo are yall choosing ?

And would I still need to run a MZKO and or FZKO for either set bcuz I don’t have Univ on the card

I use Parsons like that and have Dual Threat and Colossus on him...then I just have Tackle Supreme and No outsider and Inside Stuff on him for runs...

NoPay2Win said:

I use Parsons like that and have Dual Threat and Colossus on him...then I just have Tackle Supreme and No outsider and Inside Stuff on him for runs...

Worrrd. No Ko’s on him tho?

id do dual threat and run stuffer. fzko and mzko for reactions too

you get your UF, KOs, and sheds vs the run + help vs vanguard

RavensFlockLetsFly said:

id do dual threat and run stuffer. fzko and mzko for reactions too

you get your UF, KOs, and sheds vs the run + help vs vanguard

Does Run Stuffer counter Vanguard? I thought that beating Vanguard required the ability to win specifically impact blocks. One of the most frustrating things about the Vanguard period of MUT this year is that you could draw the defense toward the sideline (including defenders with Out My Way), and then cut back to slow up the defenders on their change of direction, and putting them directly in the path of a charging offensive player with Vanguard lighting up.

My understanding is that Run Stuffer gets you off the line, but it doesn't work quite as broadly as Reinforcement does. But it was because of that understanding that I hadn't previously run Run Stuffer.

One of the reasons there's not a consensus about many abilities is that our individual past experiences have been very different from what those of others are, and psychologically most of us are unlikely to adopt a contradictory view when what we're doing is working for us. In principle there is a rock-paper-scissors element to many of the abilities and X-factors, and the original concepts were probably hashed out on paper at one time. Later the programmers received the concept, but between our justified lack of confidence in the programmers and their failure to get clear descriptions into the game, we're left with these persistent questions about the game's fundamental mechanics.

phatalerror said:

Does Run Stuffer counter Vanguard? I thought that beating Vanguard required the ability to win specifically impact blocks. One of the most frustrating things about the Vanguard period of MUT this year is that you could draw the defense toward the sideline (including defenders with Out My Way), and then cut back to slow up the defenders on their change of direction, and putting them directly in the path of a charging offensive player with Vanguard lighting up.

My understanding is that Run Stuffer gets you off the line, but it doesn't work quite as broadly as Reinforcement does. But it was because of that understanding that I hadn't previously run Run Stuffer.

One of the reasons there's not a consensus about many abilities is that our individual past experiences have been very different from what those of others are, and psychologically most of us are unlikely to adopt a contradictory view when what we're doing is working for us. In principle there is a rock-paper-scissors element to many of the abilities and X-factors, and the original concepts were probably hashed out on paper at one time. Later the programmers received the concept, but between our justified lack of confidence in the programmers and their failure to get clear descriptions into the game, we're left with these persistent questions about the game's fundamental mechanics.

not all the time but yes, im pretty sure it has out my way like reinforcement does. even if it doesnt have out my way, it still works. i have some insane run blow ups after putting 3 of them on my dline.

i agree, theey need to be more clear on what everything does

Dual threat and reinforcement are strictly better than unstoppable force and run stuffer /thread

RavensFlockLetsFly said:

not all the time but yes, im pretty sure it has out my way like reinforcement does. even if it doesnt have out my way, it still works. i have some insane run blow ups after putting 3 of them on my dline.

i agree, theey need to be more clear on what everything does

Most of the crash-in run-crushing animations aren't impact blocks, but are right off the line from the snap, which is exactly what I would expect Run Stuffer to do. You would see (or wouldn't see?) the difference more on Run Stuffer on middle linebackers or players forced to flow laterally.