Bottleneck no longer works

Wish Ea would have said something instead of silently sneakily nerfing it.

Watson and herb can't cover anyone suddenly after being lock down in the past

Good I'm glad hated that bottleneck meta when that shit ran a muck in Mut24 I stopped playing until m25 early release made mut unplayable imo

glasscitytitan said:

Good I'm glad hated that bottleneck meta when that shit ran a muck in Mut24 I stopped playing until m25 early release made mut unplayable imo

In mut24, it was wasily countered by YAC em up/Rac em up...or short elite

Without bottleneck on your outside DBs, man coverage in unplayable...everyone playing zones with KOs

Once we see WRs with Yac em Up/Rac em up, I could understand Wr beating bottleneck

But a WR with no abilities should not torch man press every time

jimshredder said:

In mut24, it was wasily countered by YAC em up/Rac em up...or short elite

Without bottleneck on your outside DBs, man coverage in unplayable...everyone playing zones with KOs

Once we see WRs with Yac em Up/Rac em up, I could understand Wr beating bottleneck

But a WR with no abilities should not torch man press every time

I was seriously debating giving Man another try, pairing it with one of these nasty 3 to 4 man pressures, but I already know simple Drags, Slants ,Posts and Corner routes will continue to fry straight up Man. Uff.

Were just two Bottlenecks sufficient to pull off reliable Man coverage? I tried it VERY briefly, even added Deion with Universal Coverage, but still way too inconsistent. It's great at beating bad players, guess there is a kind of lot of that out there, myself included.

peatrick said:

I was seriously debating giving Man another try, pairing it with one of these nasty 3 to 4 man pressures, but I already know simple Drags, Slants ,Posts and Corner routes will continue to fry straight up Man. Uff.

Were just two Bottlenecks sufficient to pull off reliable Man coverage? I tried it VERY briefly, even added Deion with Universal Coverage, but still way too inconsistent. It's great at beating bad players, guess there is a kind of lot of that out there, myself included.

Bottleneck worked great on the outside corners up until the new season - Herb and Watson

Now it hasnt really been working, they get beat on like 90% of routes, including lots of streaks and 1 play TDs

Its quite demoralizing to see what is supposed to be your lockdown corner get beat so often on simple streak routes

Im going back to zone...I really wanted to try man, but zone is way better right now...just midzone and pick artist everywhere...just like the meta

Safeties get fried on corner routes, and this is before we have seen route tech

Gonna spend most of my AP on getting Unstoppable Force on Karkoftis and Ware, then save up for Reggie and get a 3rd unstoppable force or hope his price drops

DoN and Edge Threat are not existent

jimshredder said:

Bottleneck worked great on the outside corners up until the new season - Herb and Watson

Now it hasnt really been working, they get beat on like 90% of routes, including lots of streaks and 1 play TDs

Its quite demoralizing to see what is supposed to be your lockdown corner get beat so often on simple streak routes

Im going back to zone...I really wanted to try man, but zone is way better right now...just midzone and pick artist everywhere...just like the meta

Safeties get fried on corner routes, and this is before we have seen route tech

Gonna spend most of my AP on getting Unstoppable Force on Karkoftis and Ware, then save up for Reggie and get a 3rd unstoppable force or hope his price drops

DoN and Edge Threat are not existent

this is the same way I feel about the abilities right now just specific players with specific abilities with specific schemes perform better which is horrible.

If you run press man you need to send 5-7 or else it’s bbq chicken

SosaChamberlain said:

If you run press man you need to send 5-7 or else it’s bbq chicken

Even when I blitz the house...Watson gets beat on streaks

jimshredder said:

Even when I blitz the house...Watson gets beat on streaks

who are these receivers?! when i try streaks vs sell out cover 0 im getting jammed at the line by corners with only pick artist.

SosaChamberlain said:

who are these receivers?! when i try streaks vs sell out cover 0 im getting jammed at the line by corners with only pick artist.

Too many to name. I gave up like 3 to 4 pass tds a game but I'm stubborn so kept trying to press

The lowest ovr wrs that scorched me were zero chill Julio and third n juan with no abilities

peatrick said:

I was seriously debating giving Man another try, pairing it with one of these nasty 3 to 4 man pressures, but I already know simple Drags, Slants ,Posts and Corner routes will continue to fry straight up Man. Uff.

Were just two Bottlenecks sufficient to pull off reliable Man coverage? I tried it VERY briefly, even added Deion with Universal Coverage, but still way too inconsistent. It's great at beating bad players, guess there is a kind of lot of that out there, myself included.

I'm running 99 troy Vincent w 99 ty law on the outside and they blanket everyone.  When moss dropped some guy tried running streaks on ty law w miss and law was ahead of moss every time.

jimshredder said:

Bottleneck worked great on the outside corners up until the new season - Herb and Watson

Now it hasnt really been working, they get beat on like 90% of routes, including lots of streaks and 1 play TDs

Its quite demoralizing to see what is supposed to be your lockdown corner get beat so often on simple streak routes

Im going back to zone...I really wanted to try man, but zone is way better right now...just midzone and pick artist everywhere...just like the meta

Safeties get fried on corner routes, and this is before we have seen route tech

Gonna spend most of my AP on getting Unstoppable Force on Karkoftis and Ware, then save up for Reggie and get a 3rd unstoppable force or hope his price drops

DoN and Edge Threat are not existent

Finally sold my Reggie, just wasn't playing enough to justify a 6M coin edge rusher... anyway, i'm back to using Ware (4AP UF) and George K. (Edge Threat + DoN, to save on AP) then i've got Deion's Universal Coverage (3AP) and MZKO + PA combo on basically all other defenders; corners, safeties, linebackers, etc.

twitchtaxpro said:

I'm running 99 troy Vincent w 99 ty law on the outside and they blanket everyone.  When moss dropped some guy tried running streaks on ty law w miss and law was ahead of moss every time.

With any Man coverage abilities, or what?  I've got the uhhh blue version of Ty Law, my other corners are:

1. Deion Sanders (3AP Universal Coverage) 3AP
2. Jaylen Watson (MZKO + PA + Tip Drill) 1AP
3. Herb Adderley (MZKO + Flat Zone + PA) 1AP
4. Ty Law (MZKO + PA + Tip Drill) 1AP

peatrick said:

With any Man coverage abilities, or what?  I've got the uhhh blue version of Ty Law, my other corners are:

1. Deion Sanders (3AP Universal Coverage) 3AP
2. Jaylen Watson (MZKO + PA + Tip Drill) 1AP
3. Herb Adderley (MZKO + Flat Zone + PA) 1AP
4. Ty Law (MZKO + PA + Tip Drill) 1AP

Unfortunately, man has gotten so bad in my experience that I'm not even close enough to get a Route KO, so back to zone.

I think my new set up will be

FRONT 4 - 9 AP

LE Honors Verse - Edge Threat, No Outsiders  - 1AP

RE Honors Armstead - Edge Threat, No Outsiders - 1AP

DT Karloftis  - Unstoppable Force, Inside Stuff 5AP

DT Vince Wilforrk - Inside Stuff, Int Threat - 2AP

NICKEL SUB LBs - 1 AP

Nitzke - MZKO, Lurk Art - 0AP

Seau, MZKO, Lurk Art, Sec Tack - 1AP

NICKEL CBs - 3 AP

Outside Surtain - MZKO, PA - 1AP

Outside Woolen - MZKO, PA - 1 AP

Slot M Blount - MZKO, PA, Stonewall - 1 AP

Safeties - 3AP

FS K Houston, MZKO, PA, DINZKO - 1 AP

SS McCourty - MZKO, PA, Reinforcement - 2 AP

.

Then maybe add Gengki Kenny Clark if I need a 5th DLineman with 0AP Int Threat on blitizing downs

And Deion as my 2nd Slot DB with 0AP Pick Artist but no KOs