New fatigue penalty for certain players

archaicwarrior said:

LT was a dawg, but the reason you didnt see him huffing and puffing was cause he was coked up 24/7

Facts

obijuan26 said:

Seems more realistic. I’m the nfl smaller guys get tired when they go up against big linemen and I’m sure we all would too. Good job by EA finally making the game better. No nfl team blitzes every play.

Two plays where you blitz with a safety who you have in the box and all of a sudden he’s orange or red, AND doesn’t recover whether you bench him or call timeouts? SUPER realistic smh. Gtfoh

DOPJONES2 said:

So you're saying it's realistic for Micah Parsons, TJ watt, and lawrence taylor to have to sit for 2/3 of the game because they're going up against a guy who's a little on the heavy side. This is a very weird hill to die on my man. 💀

Hahaha facts bro. Some of these mf’s don’t know football. And it shows.

FloorGeneral said:

Micah and LT are lighter. I have Gary and Clay and haven't had any issues. I have with Hendricks. I like it. Now everyone just can't blitz all willy nilly. Gotta be strategic.

Blitzing Willy nill? this is happening with DE’s too. My Jevon Kearse was unusable in a game today. He’s a dedicated pass rusher at DE. Went red after ONE DRIVE and didn’t recover the whole game lol. They messed it up. He’s 260 and has 90+ pass rush abilities, this shouldn’t bother him but has made him unplayable. I get the logic of fatiguing DBs and LBs that aren’t pass rushers but they need to tune this BIG TIME

PoundTheRock said:

Blitzing Willy nill? this is happening with DE’s too. My Jevon Kearse was unusable in a game today. He’s a dedicated pass rusher at DE. Went red after ONE DRIVE and didn’t recover the whole game lol. They messed it up. He’s 260 and has 90+ pass rush abilities, this shouldn’t bother him but has made him unplayable. I get the logic of fatiguing DBs and LBs that aren’t pass rushers but they need to tune this BIG TIME

^^^^ bingo

SouljaSlim91 said:

Hahaha facts bro. Some of these mf’s don’t know football. And it shows.

If you watched LT like I did,  he would push around offensive tackles who have him by 70 lbs and.never got fatigued (and.no it wasn't coke)... it's just not realistic ...

It's also not how EA meant.ro.code it.  They were trying to stop small DBs from going through 300 LB o linemen and I get that.  IRL if a 195 LB. Safety or CB went up against a 315LB O Tackle every play he'd get gassed.

But not guys like Micah or LT.

EA needs to fix this so that if only affects DBs or.small LBs.who are.coverage backers

weplaythose said:

Shocker that EA broke the game again.

Holy hell, I Jerry thinking there has got to be something wrong. My dudes are totally gassed and being subbed out, sometimes after a single play.

What's the best way to avoid this, never blitz anyone? Drop 8 back into coverage on every down? Uggh. Getting backups all over the place. Is it too damn much to ask to use the squads we put together, EA trying to sell us more high end cards, essentially requiring 55 man deep roster of legit playable cards? Fuck me.

Why am I still here? I'm an absolute glutton for punishment. Gonna try to get through a few full games before I continue ranting and raving, but this is brutal. Am I way out of line here? The fuck. 🤬

Martyr1968 said:

If you watched LT like I did,  he would push around offensive tackles who have him by 70 lbs and.never got fatigued (and.no it wasn't coke)... it's just not realistic ...

It's also not how EA meant.ro.code it.  They were trying to stop small DBs from going through 300 LB o linemen and I get that.  IRL if a 195 LB. Safety or CB went up against a 315LB O Tackle every play he'd get gassed.

But not guys like Micah or LT.

EA needs to fix this so that if only affects DBs or.small LBs.who are.coverage backers

Agreed, truly decent idea in theory. Horrendous, inept EA with their usual terrible implementation.

They still haven't figured out how to resolve pass catching, so now everyone has to (or should be) run Gift Wrapped. Or LurkArtist on defense. Pro athletes should be able to catch a damn ball. Well, skill positions at the very least.

Where is the simulation fatball I signed up for? Aargh.

P. S. it might have been the coke, LT in NYC in the late 80s, he almost certainly had plenty of top shelf bananas and blow. 😜

peatrick said:

Holy hell, I Jerry thinking there has got to be something wrong. My dudes are totally gassed and being subbed out, sometimes after a single play.

What's the best way to avoid this, never blitz anyone? Drop 8 back into coverage on every down? Uggh. Getting backups all over the place. Is it too damn much to ask to use the squads we put together, EA trying to sell us more high end cards, essentially requiring 55 man deep roster of legit playable cards? Fuck me.

Why am I still here? I'm an absolute glutton for punishment. Gonna try to get through a few full games before I continue ranting and raving, but this is brutal. Am I way out of line here? The fuck. 🤬

Best way to deal with it is heavier players, if you can afford them. And basically never blitz a DB. A good backup or two for your DEs/RDEs doesn't hurt either. The players I don't have problems with 90% of the time:

SS Peppers

SS Bo

MLB Gronk

B Chubb

M Sweat

Then I have Micah as a backup rusher. Gronk and Carmichael are my SubLBs and Carmichael, despite his height, is pretty light, so I do have issues with him. I have Roquan with free LA as his backup though so it's manageable. This is all based around a ZC TT though, so I don't know what I'd change if I were doing something else. If you can't afford all this shit, just look for heavy mfers wherever you can get them.

colbyzg said:

Best way to deal with it is heavier players, if you can afford them. And basically never blitz a DB. A good backup or two for your DEs/RDEs doesn't hurt either. The players I don't have problems with 90% of the time:

SS Peppers

SS Bo

MLB Gronk

B Chubb

M Sweat

Then I have Micah as a backup rusher. Gronk and Carmichael are my SubLBs and Carmichael, despite his height, is pretty light, so I do have issues with him. I have Roquan with free LA as his backup though so it's manageable. This is all based around a ZC TT though, so I don't know what I'd change if I were doing something else. If you can't afford all this shit, just look for heavy mfers wherever you can get them.

Yeah I have Peppers,  Bo, JJ, Donald,.Sweat, Gronk ,.Harold, Tatum who might be ok because PMV >70 .

I just added Trent, Got Runyan, Larry Allen,.Orlando.Brown, will add bigger linemen so that my avg O.lineman is pushing 340.

But I also have LT, Micah, TJ, Derrick Thomas, Jalen, Too Tall,.Buckner, Will Anderson.tjat I can sub in and out to try to avoid fstigue

I just played 3 games and didn't notice anything you guys are talking about. I was blitzing josh Allen too with his 30 power moves. Never got tired. Did they fix it already.

Mokascloud said:

"Now if a defender who is not a dedicated pass rusher having a Power Move and Finesse Move rating below 70 engages in a blocking mismatch where they are outweighed by 90 lbs or more, they will suffer a significant fatigue hit. "

So I guess this will force teams to use heaver LB's, or at least LBs with good pass rushing. I was a little worried, because i blitz ZC CB Hester all the time.. but i guess he is safe since he has like 90 plus Finesse Move???

this sounds like it is to combat people running A gap blitzes with safeties. So pretty much every time they actually pick up the safety on a blitz he is rendered useless rest of game.

Martyr1968 said:

Yeah I have Peppers,  Bo, JJ, Donald,.Sweat, Gronk ,.Harold, Tatum who might be ok because PMV >70 .

I just added Trent, Got Runyan, Larry Allen,.Orlando.Brown, will add bigger linemen so that my avg O.lineman is pushing 340.

But I also have LT, Micah, TJ, Derrick Thomas, Jalen, Too Tall,.Buckner, Will Anderson.tjat I can sub in and out to try to avoid fstigue

Having mammoth oline will be big for the rest of the year. If you have a tackle in the the 360+ range it will render certain rushers useless.

FloorGeneral said:

No need to be a passive aggressive prick, must come naturally. Nowhere was anything about edge rushers or archetypes mentioned. They said dedicated rushers, but that could very well mean DE and DT, as they're the only ppl on the field that typically rush every down. The weight and pass rush move thresholds must act independently of each other, as I've had (and stated in an above post) ZERO issues with Rashan Gary or Clay Matthews, but I have with Ted Hendricks. The wording is funny (maybe purposely so) and, again as I have stated above, in the very post you quoted, I have no idea if this is what they intended, but it's what we have. Naturally people are gonna complain, cause that's what people do, but maybe just adjust instead. The tools are available to counteract this. Use them.

says the guy who used people's comprehension passive aggressivly first lmao. it's broken. not working as intended. there's no need to bootlick when things aren't working as intended. when they specifically say 'non pass rushing' you could very easily assume they don't mean pass rushing archetypes at linebacker spots otherwise all the new cards at those positions that are too light would be unplayable. realisticly a fast and high finesse move player could navigate around a big non athletic tackle easily.