Great video on the current state of MUT and all EA shenanigans

Moderator rynoman12 said:

I get what you are getting at but please hear me out when I say this: this isn't good content. 

I can interact with this for 5 minutes and be done because I don't have any more packs to open. There's no solos, there's no sets, and there is nothing to interact with outside of the store. There's nothing else besides opening packs. That's not good content. 
 

And if you don't think these guys aren't high valued, difference making cards, you are wrong. Josh Allen is 1 of 2 people with 0 AP Lurk Artist. Pacheco is the only discounted Deep Out Zone KO in the game, Gilmore is the only discounted Short In Elite in the game. These cards are difference making just in AP standards alone. Any AP point you can save is another AP point you can use somewhere else and those are at least the 2 biggest defensive abilities in the game to get discounts on (I haven't tested Short In Elite yet this year so jury is still out on that one). I bought Pacheco at 1.4 mil and he is all that and a bag of chips. 

And 800k for a "champion" is the highest of the year after a day by far. Again that is more my issue.

I think they have to restructure some of these small programs to have high value chase cards like that though, I agree the content is kinda lacking as far as solo's that doesn't bother me personally because I hate solos. i'm fine w/ h2h, I actually wish they had a couple different versions and maybe more content h2h wise.

blamppp said:

I think they have to restructure some of these small programs to have high value chase cards like that though, I agree the content is kinda lacking as far as solo's that doesn't bother me personally because I hate solos. i'm fine w/ h2h, I actually wish they had a couple different versions and maybe more content h2h wise.

To me, the high value chase cards are your LTDs, which I'm fine with. And like you said earlier, thinking just H2H is short sighted. People play solos daily and don't play H2H so there is nothing new for them to play if they don't get new solos. Think about all the other weekly promos: AKAs have solos, Legends have solos, TOTWs have solos. And think about how they are structured. Sets for good/great cards, LTDs to chase in packs if you want. There's more interaction there. The pack only promos are only good for the pack openers, but with these awful pack odds, it's not even good for them.

blamppp said:

I think they have to restructure some of these small programs to have high value chase cards like that though, I agree the content is kinda lacking as far as solo's that doesn't bother me personally because I hate solos. i'm fine w/ h2h, I actually wish they had a couple different versions and maybe more content h2h wise.

I suggested different rewards for h2h since i play h2h more than solos too. Give different rewards for different divisions, give us actual players we can earn and different packs only found in those divisions.

SportsPerson94 said:

I suggested different rewards for h2h since i play h2h more than solos too. Give different rewards for different divisions, give us actual players we can earn and different packs only found in those divisions.

would be cool, I just don't think they can it would overpower the game, did you see how many people were doing multiple wallers and just tanking the price etc.

if you overdo the rewards all the prices will just tank.

blamppp said:

would be cool, I just don't think they can it would overpower the game, did you see how many people were doing multiple wallers and just tanking the price etc.

if you overdo the rewards all the prices will just tank.

Yea that's true. Maybe they can limit the players to like 2-3 per person or something?

blamppp said:

sometimes you have to take a step back and realize, no disrespect but gutfoxx is a gambler addicted to bigger faster strong more more more, just like many others in MUT.  He also gets paid to rile you up about MUT and things that aren't true or don't matter, I watch him all the time. nothing wrong with that, but you gotta step back and realize it for what it is.

people are just constantly complaining because they are addicted to the game and want the top #1 player at every position and best possible team for free..... you can easily play mut with a free team and compete I'm doing it right now.

all the streamers complaining about bought packs are full of sh*t... pack odds this year have been better than ever, almost every single time I bought something or did a big bundle etc I've pulled top cards. no you aren't going to get a 93 ray lewis for $20 everytime they drop a pack, but people just complain over & over & over, aww man I wanted that limited for free, awwww man I think I should have pulled the very best card in the game in a cheap pack. like c'mon man, it's nowhere near as bad as people think or say it is, I play everyday, vick, moss, sanders, palo-mao, jason kelce, travis kelce, kyle juszczyk, ronnie lott, jack campbell, eric kendricks, darren woodson, aaron donald 89, josh sweat, jalen ramsey, tariq woolen, 89 michael pierce, all very free and very competitive cards then with the extra rewards from playing alot you can easily fill that team in and have a top tier team "EASILY"........

Stop complaining & crying because you can't compete with a streamer who plays all day and gets paid to do it and outspends you, then gets paid to rile you up so you can watch a video they made that they don't even care about.

people's addiction to this sh*t is driving them crazy.

The terrible, imbalanced gameplay and PAY TO WIN game mechanics are driving people crazy.  We're trying to help you comprehend what is actually happening, but you refuse to face the facts.  Time to wake up and smell the roses, lil buddy.

It's okay to apply critical-thinking, but yer not gonna learn that without applying at least minimal effort.  You can do it, buddy.  Focus, focus.

EDIT: FYI, a similar thread is running concurrently: here

peatrick said:

The terrible, imbalanced gameplay and PAY TO WIN game mechanics are driving people crazy.  We're trying to help you comprehend what is actually happening, but you refuse to face the facts.  Time to wake up and smell the roses, lil buddy.

It's okay to apply critical-thinking, but yer not gonna learn that without applying at least minimal effort.  You can do it, buddy.  Focus, focus.

EDIT: FYI, a similar thread is running concurrently: here

the pay to win part is the part I don't get, how you gotta pay to win if i'm winning w/ a completely free team? 

I do have coins but MUT is far from pay to win, it's not even close, you can easily win with a free team.

it's always somebody that comes in and tries to insult like that's a method to debate topics, but you are wrong, I just had a SB win the other day with an 87 ovr team while testing out players, what are you paying for that's helping you win? because i'm not seeing it, everybody that got a god squad doesn't have an amazing record unless they are running  6-1 and verts or some crazy cheese and in that case they don't need the players anyway.

that pacheco isn't going to make you win, neither is gronk, ray lewis, faulk, sherman, josh allen etc. winning level cards are crazy cheap right now.

if your mentality can't look past insults and that's all you have no need to respond.

You alr know

watched last night

blamppp said:

the pay to win part is the part I don't get, how you gotta pay to win if i'm winning w/ a completely free team? 

I do have coins but MUT is far from pay to win, it's not even close, you can easily win with a free team.

it's always somebody that comes in and tries to insult like that's a method to debate topics, but you are wrong, I just had a SB win the other day with an 87 ovr team while testing out players, what are you paying for that's helping you win? because i'm not seeing it, everybody that got a god squad doesn't have an amazing record unless they are running  6-1 and verts or some crazy cheese and in that case they don't need the players anyway.

that pacheco isn't going to make you win, neither is gronk, ray lewis, faulk, sherman, josh allen etc. winning level cards are crazy cheap right now.

if your mentality can't look past insults and that's all you have no need to respond.

ebooks, abilties and top tier cards are pay 2 win......not hard to understand. if it wasnt p2w then you would see every single comp player being nms

blamppp said:

the pay to win part is the part I don't get, how you gotta pay to win if i'm winning w/ a completely free team? 

I do have coins but MUT is far from pay to win, it's not even close, you can easily win with a free team.

it's always somebody that comes in and tries to insult like that's a method to debate topics, but you are wrong, I just had a SB win the other day with an 87 ovr team while testing out players, what are you paying for that's helping you win? because i'm not seeing it, everybody that got a god squad doesn't have an amazing record unless they are running  6-1 and verts or some crazy cheese and in that case they don't need the players anyway.

that pacheco isn't going to make you win, neither is gronk, ray lewis, faulk, sherman, josh allen etc. winning level cards are crazy cheap right now.

if your mentality can't look past insults and that's all you have no need to respond.

I (and others from the community) have tried numerous times to explain this stuff in as clear and concise manner as i know how.  At what point are you remaining willfully ignorant?  You obviously don't have to agree with what everyone is suggesting (about pay to win game mechanics being complete BULLSHIT, especially in a "competitive" mode that should strive for true gameplay balance), but you simply cannot keep showing up here and stating you cannot or do not / will not seem to understand the opposing perspective.

Let me know when you want to put your "free" team up against my casual ass.  I haven't even been playing MUT a full calendar year, the odds should be stacked in your favor based on what you are saying, correct?  Maybe we can set up a demonstration game / stream to prove our theories.

MrAgentSochi said:

Troll trolls horribly and gets called out like crazy for it. You love to see it lmao.

I didn’t even read his comment but I am starting to think others didn’t either. If he is anti-gutfoxx I am on his side tho.

peatrick said:

I (and others from the community) have tried numerous times to explain this stuff in as clear and concise manner as i know how.  At what point are you remaining willfully ignorant?  You obviously don't have to agree with what everyone is suggesting (about pay to win game mechanics being complete BULLSHIT, especially in a "competitive" mode that should strive for true gameplay balance), but you simply cannot keep showing up here and stating you cannot or do not / will not seem to understand the opposing perspective.

Let me know when you want to put your "free" team up against my casual ass.  I haven't even been playing MUT a full calendar year, the odds should be stacked in your favor based on what you are saying, correct?  Maybe we can set up a demonstration game / stream to prove our theories.

i'll play you right now, lets get it....... i'm online NOW. i'd be more than willing to setup some demo stream/video stuff.

blamppp said:

i'll play you right now, lets get it....... i'm online NOW. i'd be more than willing to setup some demo stream/video stuff.

It's been liek ~2 weeks since i've played any online H2H.  Haven't gotten my new defense dialed in just yet, but i should be done with stupid wr0k here shortly and will try to look you up.  If we can't connect this evening, perhaps rain-check for tomorrow afternoon or evening?  I'm on Playstation network.

Do you have ability to record full gameplay?  I can probably figure something out, but i'm more Boomer than streamer.

bbrewer23goblue said:

ebooks, abilties and top tier cards are pay 2 win......not hard to understand. if it wasnt p2w then you would see every single comp player being nms

comp players pretty much just run 6-1 or dollar / verts/bunch and win because it's just broken....... I watch every tournament and I don't see where abilities win them the game at all.

you also can get abilities w/ very cheap players, abilities as a whole if you feel like that's the winning factor can be easily obtained NMS.

show me a top player that's a game changer, I guarantee I prove to you they are not, I can test any player you want and prove there is a better cheaper player.