SFL & Gunslinger clarification

I've seen a lot of people here asking if you have SFL do you still need gunslinger, and vice versa.

Many  people may know this,  but in case you weren't sure,  they do completely different things. 

SFL increases ball velocity on set feet bullet passes. It does not speed up a QB's windup on deep passes or affect his release in any way whatsoever.

Gunslinger speeds up the QBs release on any/every throw.  So if your QB has a long windup or a slow release (or both) gunslinger will speed that up.  Making it very helpful if your opponent is bringing pressure. However,  it does nothing at all to the ball velocity.  It only affects throwing motion.

So, one affects how quickly.the QB gets the ball out and the other affects how fast the ball gets there once it leaves the QB's hand

If you already knew this , sorry to waste your time.  If not,  hope it helps

Crazy if they go here they can just read the tooltips and could see the difference without having to leave the site.

Looks like it even got updated a bit yesterday/today

Thanks for sharing. If this ends up helping even one person I think it's worth sharing

Breakluna said:

Thanks for sharing. If this ends up helping even one person I think it's worth sharing

For sure. You know what it is, I read so many posts on Marino, Mahomes, Aikman, etc...."Do I need GS if I have SFL"....and if you are asking that question then maybe you aren't aware of what each ability truly does, so I figure maybe this will help.

The answer really is, unless your QB has the Lamar release you probably want GS. And if you can get it, you definitely want SFL

Martyr1968 said:

For sure. You know what it is, I read so many posts on Marino, Mahomes, Aikman, etc...."Do I need GS if I have SFL"....and if you are asking that question then maybe you aren't aware of what each ability truly does, so I figure maybe this will help.

The answer really is, unless your QB has the Lamar release you probably want GS. And if you can get it, you definitely want SFL

Good info for people who need it first of all, well explained. 

My problem is considering you have to choose between SFL or HRM I have to go with HRM (i have SFL as my x factor though) although maybe I should reconsider and try out SFL one of these days. Its not like I always had HRM after all. I once did fine without it lol (PS imagine if EA just made a decent enough game in the first olace where all users had access to the same basic game mechanics of all the hot routes lol)

PPS: or if SFL was basically just represented automatically by the arm strength or the related ratings. Lol crazy how we never even stop to think of stuff like this anymore because we are just used to it by now...

SquishySoldier21 said:

Good info for people who need it first of all, well explained. 

My problem is considering you have to choose between SFL or HRM I have to go with HRM (i have SFL as my x factor though) although maybe I should reconsider and try out SFL one of these days. Its not like I always had HRM after all. I once did fine without it lol (PS imagine if EA just made a decent enough game in the first olace where all users had access to the same basic game mechanics of all the hot routes lol)

PPS: or if SFL was basically just represented automatically by the arm strength or the related ratings. Lol crazy how we never even stop to think of stuff like this anymore because we are just used to it by now...

I am torn between HRM and SFL myself. I always LOVE HRM. I mean, IRL the QB can always audible or call for any hot route.

And I find that different route combinations can make all the difference....but SFL is so powerful in getting the ball where you want it in tight windows that I felt I had to use that full time, use HRM part time, and the other 50-60% of the time just use route combos that I can create without the extra hot routes. Maybe run  the ball a bit, etc.

Martyr1968 said:

I am torn between HRM and SFL myself. I always LOVE HRM. I mean, IRL the QB can always audible or call for any hot route.

And I find that different route combinations can make all the difference....but SFL is so powerful in getting the ball where you want it in tight windows that I felt I had to use that full time, use HRM part time, and the other 50-60% of the time just use route combos that I can create without the extra hot routes. Maybe run  the ball a bit, etc.

Yeah I might try that out today and see how I like it actually. 90 percent of what I actually USE HRM regularly for is just the "extra" (like you said irl all routes are just available smh) rb routes.

Granted I use it for that VERY often but still its technically just one position thats mostly affected. Could be worth trying changing it up and seeing how much of a difference full time SFL would make for me.

SquishySoldier21 said:

Yeah I might try that out today and see how I like it actually. 90 percent of what I actually USE HRM regularly for is just the "extra" (like you said irl all routes are just available smh) rb routes.

Granted I use it for that VERY often but still its technically just one position thats mostly affected. Could be worth trying changing it up and seeing how much of a difference full time SFL would make for me.

If you can, put RB apprentice on your HB so you'll get the flat, texas, ghost, etc routes

Martyr1968 said:

If you can, put RB apprentice on your HB so you'll get the flat, texas, ghost, etc routes

I was thinking that but wed still run out of AP to even be able to do that if we had SFL and GS on our qb wouldnt we?

SquishySoldier21 said:

I was thinking that but wed still run out of AP to even be able to do that if we had SFL and GS on our qb wouldnt we?

Yep. Would need to drop gunslinger unfortunately.

EA hasn't made it easy LOL