And this is why I wait until all ratings and traits are revealed to evaluate a card

Kurt Warner.

Generic 2 release. Trigger Happy pressure trait.

That makes a big difference as to whether or not he will replace Montana for me. Will probably pass on the card now.

Marvin vs Irvin: Break tackle- Irvin 91, Marvin 83. Juke, spin, COD and break tackle - Irvin has all 90 or better - Marvin does not.

These are the things that do make a difference in gameplay....at least I notice them.

I love Marvin and he’s the #1 player I wanted most in this promo…but how is he the same ovr as Irvin? He seems the same or worse in every stat

WoodyWoody said:

I love Marvin and he’s the #1 player I wanted most in this promo…but how is he the same ovr as Irvin? He seems the same or worse in every stat

EA juiced his OVR with things like pass block (+22), kick return (+25) and some of the stats are better, +3 accel, COD, CIT...but that's how EA does it.

Martyr1968 said:

EA juiced his OVR with things like pass block (+22), kick return (+25) and some of the stats are better, +3 accel, COD, CIT...but that's how EA does it.

Yeah exactly how you have to look deeper 

Last year Perry was boosted because he had running boosts for his inevitable RB card. 

Irvin is the perfect receiver. 
I dont know the sense pressure that much (may be because of the fearless and such) but with GS it does help the release, especially on deep.

kaotikords said:

Yeah exactly how you have to look deeper 

Last year Perry was boosted because he had running boosts for his inevitable RB card. 

Irvin is the perfect receiver. 
I dont know the sense pressure that much (may be because of the fearless and such) but with GS it does help the release, especially on deep.

The thing with Kurt is, you have to find something up if you want to put GS on him

Martyr1968 said:

Kurt Warner.

Generic 2 release. Trigger Happy pressure trait.

That makes a big difference as to whether or not he will replace Montana for me. Will probably pass on the card now.

Marvin vs Irvin: Break tackle- Irvin 91, Marvin 83. Juke, spin, COD and break tackle - Irvin has all 90 or better - Marvin does not.

These are the things that do make a difference in gameplay....at least I notice them.

i built warner cuz i had 88 i got for less that 100 k. hes a absolute dawg with sfl, you can sling that ish like no tomorrow

archaicwarrior said:

i built warner cuz i had 88 i got for less that 100 k. hes a absolute dawg with sfl, you can sling that ish like no tomorrow

I beg to differ..Montana is better if you are a pocket passer and Lamar's release is much quicker. Kurt has just abou  the worst release in the game.

I have all the All Madden cards already excapt.Marvin . Not a huge fan of Kurt's  card

Under pressure Kurt throws some wild passes too

Martyr1968 said:

I beg to differ..Montana is better if you are a pocket passer and Lamar's release is much quicker. Kurt has just abou  the worst release in the game.

I have all the All Madden cards already excapt.Marvin . Not a huge fan of Kurt's  card

Under pressure Kurt throws some wild passes too

Geez man.. Your coin stack must be out of control or you've been hoarding 88s... 

Really the only 3 I want is Runyan to replace Roaf, Lott to replace Derwin (I have Simmons for my TT) and Riley to replace Revis. DBs (especially corners) are the most important positions to invest in. Quickest way to lose a game and IRL too.

Martyr1968 said:

I beg to differ..Montana is better if you are a pocket passer and Lamar's release is much quicker. Kurt has just abou  the worst release in the game.

I have all the All Madden cards already excapt.Marvin . Not a huge fan of Kurt's  card

Under pressure Kurt throws some wild passes too

i have montana still, hes in my binder rn, but so far from the games ive played with kurt, he has sfl and giftwrapped on him, and im just slinging this ball so fast, it honestly feels like cheese cause the defense stands no shot at the ball unless its a streak

archaicwarrior said:

i have montana still, hes in my binder rn, but so far from the games ive played with kurt, he has sfl and giftwrapped on him, and im just slinging this ball so fast, it honestly feels like cheese cause the defense stands no shot at the ball unless its a streak

That's because his release is so slow without  GS that his windup on deep balls takes forever

WendyPefferkorn said:

Geez man.. Your coin stack must be out of control or you've been hoarding 88s... 

Really the only 3 I want is Runyan to replace Roaf, Lott to replace Derwin (I have Simmons for my TT) and Riley to replace Revis. DBs (especially corners) are the most important positions to invest in. Quickest way to lose a game and IRL too.

I mean  I'm sitting at about 16.5 mil right now.  ButI try to know when to buy and when to sell

Martyr1968 said:

That's because his release is so slow without  GS that his windup on deep balls takes forever

i mean im still completing them, but im saying its the only passes the computer has a chance at getting to, you throw any other route, they legimately dont react to the pass

Martyr1968 said:

I mean  I'm sitting at about 16.5 mil right now.  ButI try to know when to buy and when to sell

Nice! I felt like I was doing good with a 2 mil stack

archaicwarrior said:

i mean im still completing them, but im saying its the only passes the computer has a chance at getting to, you throw any other route, they legimately dont react to the pass

Lol. I've played with that card today. Of course the DBs  react to the pass.  

I'm glad you like it but It's not a magic ability that's shielded from DBs. It's SFL. The ball gets there with more zip of thrown with set feet.  Just like last year.  It's a great ability but....it doesn't change his release at all. He's still got a very slow release.  Also SFL only works on bullet passes and not on high or low passes.