Do you think AKA X factors ruined Madden 23

Yes and no all abilities should be on for 4 plays and takes 5-6 to reactivate them so they can all be ballanced

Loco1332 said:

Facts! It’s ridiculous that unless you have an ability a player is useless.. QB with no SFL awful.. WR without route tech or SIE can’t get any separation.. CB without pick artist literally can not catch a ball to save there lives.. LBs without lurker won’t even attempt to jump for the ball.. it’s awful what they have done with abilities

If I were to add on to what i said earlier this would be exactly it lol

I didn't think so tell I played against the Quadfather and King Henry.  those 2 will make you pissed real quick.

abilities and X factors have ruined the whole experience of a simulation of a real life football game.  ito to op

PlasmaBeam5229 said:

Nope, just discounted abilities ruined it

I agree with this statement wholeheartedly. There hasn't really been an attempt to balance the abilities. I feel like I'm playing against the same teams pretty much every game. Size and ability discount  are much more important than stat values.

LeftHandUp said:

I agree with this statement wholeheartedly. There hasn't really been an attempt to balance the abilities. I feel like I'm playing against the same teams pretty much every game. Size and ability discount  are much more important than stat values.

^this 100%

the other thing is idk what i look for anymore in gameplay man can be beat, zone can be beat  you come up with a scheme and you have to find a specific players to put on your squad to play oppose to your favorite player, you paying for abilities to get neutralize by a  simple mechanic or inconsistent mechanic. it's horrible. because every year something is broken or cartoon-like the tackles don't kick there feet out on edge rushers and certain play actions, left guards and tight ends  block nobody in certain formations, the safeties don't come up to the ball when it's thrown regardless of gunslinger pass lead elite or even set feet with ANOTHER ABILITY..... even THE QB SNEAKS LOOKS UGLY.  

i'm glad i have another game to play  because man playing this 24/7 with no replay ability is HELL WITH VOLCANIC LAVA

UPSETTING, in many fashions

-Team building

-Gameplay

-Retention 

3 things you DON'T WANT in a game

Jfuertez said:

It’s not that bad imo

i Run a lot of nickel/big nickel but if i see quadfanther, bring in a big 34/43 set and I can usually shut the X factor down

dline X factors are a run the time out scenario, so run the ball or quick dink and dunk until they’re not active anymore 

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE RUNNING AVALANCHE THO LOLOLOL 

but on the real, this year is way more bearable than instant escape artist with corner routes

Bro i love Avalanche as well on my users

Yep xfactors and abilities have ruined madden......forces you to play certain ways on offense and defense

Ea can slowly pump slightly better content constantly all yr long easily this way .....its genius really 🤑

like a  donkey chasing the hanging carrot we are 

If stats mattered i wouldn't have to upgrade every week ?

no

Martyr1968 said:

So you have Quad and Henry with 2 dominating X factors. You can sort of counter those but you force your opp to run secure tackler, using up AP he wouldn;t have to use to stop other RBs. You have Milk Man, Tank, Maniac. There is no counter to Unstoppable force. Therefore, EA could release pass rushers with 99's at every attribute that would not be as effective as these cards. Sure the X factor turns off but they re-engage after  a series or two .

If you are playing to win, would you really use anyone else except Quad/Henry/Milk Man/Tank/Maniac (honorable mention to Mad Maxx with Blitz as well).

Eh, its kinda annoying, but it’s rly not that bad.

Sim “real” football players enjoy it so they can tote the rock

as a competitive player i don’t care that much because:

1. It’s nearly impossible to get a stop in madden 23, so if I’m getting 2nd and long/3rd and long opportunities every drive, that’s fine with me

2. People using quadfather can’t pass

3. the run is not THATTT good in this game

theloomingo said:

Here’s the weird thing: I’m crap at this game. Crap on offense, slightly better than crap on defense. I’ve been playing more H2H to try and be… not so crap. Everyone and their mother seems to be running Quad, and I have zero issue shutting him down. Oh, your X-factor deactivates after a couple TFLs? Enjoy this pair of -5 yard runs. 

It might change once I climb the rankings a bit, but right now? I love seeing Dillon on the other side of the ball.

Once you start playing guys who know how to utilize Quad and Henry it won't be so easy to stop them. I do not generally cheese those guys in h2h but if I did (and when I did a few times), it is incredibly difficult to stop.

If you put running the ball on conservative, Quad/Henry still break the tackle attempt and will not fumble. I also have Gronk with vanguard, Pickens, Roddy White, and Taysom Hill with 0 AP Honorary Lineman. I can sub in UL Zimmerman at WR who also can actually catch....and I have Delanie and Metzelaars at TE. It is pancake city. Last game I played, with SaQuads (and no AKA factor), I had 35 pancakes - Gronk had 20 alone. You won't get TFL unless you run commit and then you're screwed once you do that.

It won't be so easy to stop once you get to playing people with setups like I described. It will be downright frustrating. It is why I made this thread. I remember when MUT cards were mostly attribute based. Sure there were some crazy OP cards like Dickerson, Bo, Finneran, back in the day but mostly the better player card actually played better.

I think it is nuts that you need to use 96 Milk Man over 98 JJ Watt to be more successful.

PaCounterGo said:

Eh, its kinda annoying, but it’s rly not that bad.

Sim “real” football players enjoy it so they can tote the rock

as a competitive player i don’t care that much because:

1. It’s nearly impossible to get a stop in madden 23, so if I’m getting 2nd and long/3rd and long opportunities every drive, that’s fine with me

2. People using quadfather can’t pass

3. the run is not THATTT good in this game

If you play competitive then c'mon....lots of people who use Quad CAN pass. Unless you are not playing quality opponents. You wrote it yourself - it is nearly impossible to get a stop. That's why in MCS you see how pivotal it is when Dez stopped Henry , etc.....But that wasn't my point. You are playing a football game where you need certain abilities to counter these AKA factors or you're toast. It's not just the run, it is also unstoppable force which is unable to be  countered by any ability.  There are X factors which essentially guarantee a KO....

Don't you feel restricted by what players and abilities you can use in order to counter these AKA factors, etc? Wouldn't you rather use players you like? I guess I am old school. Man, I love guys like Bettis and Fridge but if I really want to be effective I'd have to use Derrick Brown or Al Woods over Fridge because they get IS for 0 AP. This became more of an RPG than a football sim.

Yes and no 

this game has got too far in a rabbit hole where almost every player gets discounted abilities and some get new X factors

which is hard to stop no doubt d-hop double me and of course quadfather and king Henry 

on the flip slide it makes the the game easier for beginners who want to learn the game 

too bad most are very expensive especially the good ones